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Anybody still used brushed motors?
With the demise of astroflights 05 line, velcom stopping motor production, and brushless motor ESCs becoming affordable, high performance brushed motors seem to be becoming a thing of the past. Bob wont make the pullmasters anymore, and for some applications a brushed motor works best. Anybody else here even use brushed motors anymore? I don't in any of my bashers, but in my crawlers they work well. It has been quite the task to find anybody willing to go out of the box of the standard Roar legal design, even though racing is but a tiny part of RC use in the U.S. Anybody else feel my pain on this?
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I still use brushed motors.. for my drift car... I use the cheap $5 johnson ones... wouldn't spend $50 for a nice brushed motor... unless I was really into racing..
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i still use brushed in my crawlers. lathe motors in my Clod and Stealth. it's just too dang expensive to buy 2 complete brushless setups for one truck (someone has a mod to run 2 BL motors off one esc, but i'm not that brave).
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I Do.
I have two Dewalt 14volt motors that I am still playing with. For the money I think they are the best deal on the market today. They are incredibly strong, and if you think about what they are designed for they never wear out. Plus they can handle much more than their suggested rating, because they are set up to do so much more than the intended use. So you can really power them up and go crazy with your truck and know that they will not be the first thing to go.
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At the moment I have a tamiya wild dagger (2 gearboxes, ft and rr) running 2 traxxas 12t titan 550 motors. I am currently using a novak super duty esc and running it on 3s lipo. It is reasonably fast, 32mph IIRC. Runs fine and the motors say decently cool with some clip on heatsinks. Plus the traxxas motors are only rated for 8-9v but the work fine on 3s. Tons of power too!
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yeah i really like the titan 550 12t motors for my self i will be using them in my touring car to come as an experiment. i think the use a brushed motors become more usedful in minis. for example a would rather use a 370 and spy in a mini t than a brushless becuase the motor is 12 bucks and the BL is to fast. also in the vendetta and other cars that use the 380/370 motors for some small indor tracks brushless is not necessary and is just not worthi it to me. i am not sure though that is just what i think.
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I loved my graupner speed 300 in my mini-t. Broke it in and it ran incredibly well. It would give my brushless a run for it's money, the brushless just had more top end. Sadly it died quickly as I didn't cover the holes in the sides. I have a stampede that's brushed as well. I have been finding that good brushed motors have been getting rare for a while now. I think this probably has a lot to do with the plane crowd going brushless. I wanted to stay brushed in my mini-t's as I didn't really have the cash to go brushless at the time but I found people were charging a fortune for brushed motors. I paid $30 for a graupner speed 300.
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I am wanting higher end brushed motors, yes. Non-serviceable motors are everywhere. Just wanted to know who still ran brushed too. I don't give a flip about roar rules, I just hate to see the nicer brushed motors go by the wayside.
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John, you wouldnt happen to have an astro flight pullmaster motor or something comparibale do you?
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Only my Micro-T and Axe CP are brushed...
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same as SF, only my micro has a brushed motor.
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Hmm, Plettenberg make high-end brushed motors- they claim to be as powerful as low-end BL motors.... Im guessing they mean smaller can sized BL motors, torque wise.
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that's right my micro T and one of my CEN 1/18 is brushed as well...
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I think my toothbrush is still brushed, i'll have to check though..
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Im still running a Team CheckPoint 9T in my T4 that I race On-road. Im not about to replace a 150.00 ESC and a 70.00 motor that wins me races. If it comes to the point that I cant turn it anymore Ill defiantly go BL. I wont miss my com lathe one bit.
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heh I like that serum, my dremel stylus stopped working yesterday, I took it apart and found a speed 400 with ESC on the end and a dead 2 cell LIon in the handle, that was my last brushed motor in use, it worked a couple of months ago.
I couldn't help thinking that I have a Mega 16/15/3 CC pheonix 10 and 3s 1000 LiPo that would fit in there but the shaft is too big and I need a servo tester to run the ESC, anyone know of a tiny servo tester to put inside? I don't really want to dangle one on a lead. |
Brushed motors
We still have brushed motors in my two girls' Tamiya Dark Impact buggies. But the only reason is to keep the speed to a managable level so they don't smash them up!
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You could hack up a servo tester module and mount it directly on the dremel itself. That would make a great combo for a dremel.
Shaft too big? make an adapter! |
Nice!
Hey SSSconcepts how does that 4.5 HV work with your setup? I am building one identical to the FLM Maxx that you have and I was thinking about getting it for mine? Maybe you can share some pointers from your project? Nice truck and good work.
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LOL...I just posted on another thread...check the "New Posts." I was very happy with...it was fast and I never had any thermal issues...just make sure you follow the gearing instructions (I used 72T spur and 18T pinion). I have recently swithched over to Quark/Neu 1515 and MGM/Neu combos in both my FLM Maxxs....much better performance but ouch it was expensive! My FLM Maxx dual mamba set up is now gone off to ebay (ESCs and motors)...and believe it or not it was the fastest out of everything I have tried...the motors would get hot (but no more than 3S/Mamba 5700 in my Losi XXXT. Damn truck would do standing back flips! It reminded me of my RC18T with mamba 8000kv:smile: |
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BTW...save yourself the trouble of replacing Diffs down the road...buy hybrid bulks and 1/8 scale diffs from the get go. Make sure you get the 43T ring gears and 13T diff pinions. If you can find a single speed tranny with metal idler gear and a Strobe Slipper w/Mod 1 pitch gears, get those too. |
Cool Stuff.
I still like having reverse in mine for play time, and I have custom titanium gears in the aluminum transmissions with the steel idlers. I still have to work out the diffs yet, but for now I have the Maxximizers intsalled and I am about to purchase the UE axles as well for the added strength:whip:.
Like you I to have the MGM and Quark ESC's on my Xmas list, but that is in the hands of Santa Claus for the moment:angel:. So I have to take it slow. I am working on four different ext Maxx trucks trying to get them all up to par. Waiting on some new stuff to come in to complete them the way that I want. I have 1 = all UE, 1 = all FLM, 1 = Hardcore setup, and one with the Dynomite double battery tray chassis. I just received 2 pair of Maxxamp lipos to get the fun started:party:, but I am new to that aspect, so I have much to learn (charging) so I don't fry the lipos before I get to enjoy them. I have two UE ss and 333in servos to keep the tracking right on two of the vehicles as well. Still much work to do though. Seeing trucks like yours is an inspiration.:lol: |
My Tamiya M03 Mini Cooper is still brushed, and a 19t gets it moving pretty good. My brother did have a MM5700 combo in his for a while, but it was too much, and he couldn't use the power. Other than that, my TLT scaler, TA05, and.........well, that's all I can think of, but those are my cars still running brushed.
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