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crazyjr 01.11.2008 05:52 PM

Schumacher has brushless now
 
Check this out http://rccaraction.com/ME2/dirmod.as...234DA1947D30E2

captain harlock 01.11.2008 06:11 PM

Nice!

How about a MT version?

bdebde 01.12.2008 01:51 AM

Thanks Shawn

crazyjr 01.12.2008 01:58 AM

Shawn?

bdebde 01.12.2008 02:02 AM

Shawn Palmer, formerly of Castle Creations.

lutach 01.12.2008 02:17 AM

Too bad Schumacher made it so darn expensive. The ESC I have with me is from the manufacturer and it is rated for 120A continous and 720A burst, plus it handles 4S lipos and I'm just waiting for pricing.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthre...=1#post4064064

Here is a bad video of my controller running:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2uIjw_ct08

Serum 01.12.2008 04:06 AM

I can't imagine he is proud of this product. From producing/developing your own stuff at castle back to copycats from china..

I can't believe you get a satisfied feeling from that.

skillx 01.12.2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 140587)
I can't imagine he is proud of this product. From producing/developing your own stuff at castle back to copycats from china..

I can't believe you get a satisfied feeling from that.

AMEN to that.

johnrobholmes 01.12.2008 11:22 AM

It is made by hobbywing. Feigao is offering the same products for about half the price.

http://www.hobbywing.com/ENGLISH/Art...?ArticleID=409

lutach 01.12.2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 140618)
It is made by hobbywing. Feigao is offering the same products for about half the price.

http://www.hobbywing.com/ENGLISH/Art...?ArticleID=409

Feigao has a cheap 60A controller and if you look at www.speedpassion.net, they also have them. The motors might be ok, but the Speed Passion GT is not like the one I have. The GT only handle 3S lipos and has a burst of 600A. It's cool that the folks in rctech.net like to waste money like that and it shows us here the lack of a little knowledge that they have about brushless.

johnrobholmes 01.12.2008 07:12 PM

I thought feigao was going to have the 120a version too. Did hobbywing make your ESC as well?

lutach 01.12.2008 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 140698)
I thought feigao was going to have the 120a version too. Did hobbywing make your ESC as well?

The one that I have is from them. The HV is being made by someone else.

NovakTwo 01.12.2008 08:56 PM

When our senior designer was in China, he attended a hobby electronics show. One company had a knock-off of our GTB controller in the booth. The guy told Adnan that his company built the esc for Novak. Adnan gave the fellow his Novak business card, and the guy couldn't speak English any more....:lol:

The Hobbywing products look like knock-offs of the LRP BL system.

ilpufxit 01.12.2008 09:04 PM

Funny
 
I've sure seen a lot of people conveniently forget the English language when it suited their economic purposes. I fix 1:1's for a living.

lutach 01.12.2008 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NovakTwo (Post 140726)
When our senior designer was in China, he attended a hobby electronics show. One company had a knock-off of our GTB controller in the booth. The guy told Adnan that his company built the esc for Novak. Adnan gave the fellow his Novak business card, and the guy couldn't speak English any more....:lol:

The Hobbywing products look like knock-offs of the LRP BL system.

I guess they liked the way the casing looks. I can definately tell you the MOSFETs they use are high quality, I had to take a look inside and was very impressed. I haven't seen a controller on the market yet with those kinds of MOSFETs.

glassdoctor 01.15.2008 01:09 AM

It's a he said/she said thing anymore.

Shawn Palmer (Schumacher/Speedpassion importer) says the Speedpassion GT is indeed different than the GT selling in HongKong etc. He says the SP has some improvements that they have been working on... for the racing market. The SP version comes with the handheld programmer. I don't know if the other brands do.

Fiegao is making some nice BL escs either way. Before long it looks like they will be making a large chunk of escs just like they do now in the motor market.

lutach 01.15.2008 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassdoctor (Post 141151)
It's a he said/she said thing anymore.

Shawn Palmer (Schumacher/Speedpassion importer) says the Speedpassion GT is indeed different than the GT selling in HongKong etc. He says the SP has some improvements that they have been working on... for the racing market. The SP version comes with the handheld programmer. I don't know if the other brands do.

Fiegao is making some nice BL escs either way. Before long it looks like they will be making a large chunk of escs just like they do now in the motor market.

The Speed Passion Shawn is selling is the same as the one Speed Passion made. No difference at all. The one selling in Hong Kong also has the programmer. So he's even making up more stuff to make it seem like the one he's selling is better. Wow. Feigao from what I know has the 60A controller and they make the motors. Feigao doesn't make the GT. I have the esc from the factory which also comes with the handheld programmer and handles 4S lipos. The factory even has a nice fan that can handle 14.8v as well and I'm trying to get them to send me that fan which is an option. I hope not everyone will fall for what Shawn is saying, because right now he is just making up stuff. The difference between Shawn and I is, I tell you everything up front. I said the controller that I have has a rating of 120A and 720A burst and handles 4S lipos. I don't like what he's doing at all. Almost forgot to add data from the last run I did with the esc I have: http://www.rcpics.net/view_single.php?medid=87646

glassdoctor 01.15.2008 01:52 AM

I don't know that Shawn said the GT was made by Feigao... I don't recall for sure.

I know the specs listed are different with the SP GT and "Hong Kong" GT. Are you saying they are actually the same exact unit? Why would one source choose to mislabel the specs?

The SpeedPassion GT, "Fiegao", and Exige escs all have different handheld programmers. i think that is odd...

I do know there's another system in the works that's suited for 1/8... what do you know about that one?

lutach 01.15.2008 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassdoctor (Post 141160)
I don't know that Shawn said the GT was made by Feigao... I don't recall for sure.

I know the specs listed are different with the SP GT and "Hong Kong" GT. Are you saying they are actually the same exact unit? Why would one source choose to mislabel the specs?

The SpeedPassion GT, "Fiegao", and Exige escs all have different handheld programmers. i think that is odd...

I do know there's another system in the works that's suited for 1/8... what do you know about that one?

The GT from Hong Kong and the one Shawn is talking about is the same controller. Please look at www.speedpassion.net and/or http://kinggolden-rc.com/speedpassion.html and this is from Schumacher http://www.racing-cars.com/usa/image...tter_Jan08.pdf. He is making up the specs right after I told him a few things about the controller I have. The programmer for the speed passion GT is the same as the one I have, but they only changed the way some things are said to actually look advanced. I can tell you that I spoke with the factory that made the controller I have and they are working on a 6S and a 12S system. I'm just saying what was said to me.

johnrobholmes 01.15.2008 02:19 AM

Importers change specs all the time, it makes finding the true manufacturer harder.

lutach 01.31.2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnrobholmes (Post 141162)
Importers change specs all the time, it makes finding the true manufacturer harder.

Hi John,

Look at this link: http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/showthread.php?t=244134
I told everyone HW made the controllers and Speed Passion just got them branded with their name on it. The S and S just got chewed.


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