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snellemin 01.18.2008 01:00 AM

Cheap "high voltage" esc Quest
 
I think I found for an affordable "high voltage" programmable ESC. I got it yesterday and it worked great with 3s1p A123. When I doubled the voltage it blew the stock tiny caps. Brought it to work today and added some better caps. I benchtested it with 6s1p A123 and it worked great. I'll use it on Sunday and see what kind of abuse it can take during dragracing.



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lincpimp 01.18.2008 01:11 AM

Well where did you find it, what are the specs? I want to know!

dezfan 01.18.2008 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 141990)
Well where did you find it, what are the specs? I want to know!

Ditto, sounds interesting!:yipi:

snellemin 01.18.2008 01:37 AM

huh, Fleabay.

up to 25V with external BEC, 18 volts nominal.
comes with programmer..has lcd screen. No laptop needed.
120A continious and 150A peak
getting it to sync with remote was tricky
comes with 3300 kv motor
took almost 2 weeks to get here.

johnrobholmes 01.18.2008 02:15 AM

Where would one procure some of that nice shrinkwrap?

BrianG 01.18.2008 04:22 AM

Maxamps has shrinkwrap of all sizes: http://www.maxamps.com/products.php?cat=71

tom255 01.18.2008 05:15 AM

Is it this ESC?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-10-Brushless-C...QQcmdZViewItem
I allmost bought this but no information abot this ESC hold me back, i think that its overrated and not so good quality. Blown Caps shows that. Can you tell something about fets?
But tell us how its perform? Trigger reaction? Lets say is it possible to correct car fly trajectory from jump with throttle without delays? Its realy imprtant becouse i race only dont do speedruns. And also tell about BRAKS are they good? strong and smooth?

johnrobholmes 01.18.2008 05:31 AM

I think I already have that same combo coming to me as well. I know the ESC is on the way, I don't remember if I got the motor too.

rschoi_75 01.18.2008 07:30 AM

:lol: ..... I actually bought this last week for one of my boats. I'm going to run 2s and 3s on a 24" cat that I have, but now I may have to drop it in a truck first. :party:

snellemin,
I'm not too surprised you blew the stock caps on 6s a123's. I read your write up on rcu, and know your were pushing the limits. Hey, would you be willing to set up my esc with some 35a caps like yours? If so, send me a pm.

snellemin 01.18.2008 11:19 AM

That is the ESC man, which got more expensive. I used 4.5" wide thick heatshrink and soldered on 3x 330uF 35Volt caps.

To enable the ESC, you have to put in it reverse after the first beep. You'll hear another beep, which tell you that the ESC is enabled.

sikeston34m 01.18.2008 12:05 PM

What were the ratings on the stock caps that came with it?

Hmmmm.........looks interesting. :yes:

snellemin 01.18.2008 12:11 PM

The stock ones were two tiny 220uF 35V caps.

sikeston34m 01.18.2008 12:26 PM

I've had really good success using the Novak HV capacitor. I've ran it on 6S without any issues and it doesn't get warm or anything.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKKN3&P=7

It produces ALOT of zap. :yes:

sikeston34m 01.18.2008 12:33 PM

This ESC looks like a good candidate for a project I'm planning.

I want an ESC setup that will run dual brushless motors in a boat.

It looks like all of the FET's are on the same side of this power board.

I need to find some sort of cooling plate made of either aluminum or copper that allows me to circulate water through it. It needs to be approximately the same size as the fet area on this board.

Then secure one ESC to each side of the cooling plate with thermal heat sink compound. Jumper the power wires, jumper the receiver harness (opto-mod) of course. Then heat shrink the entire thing together.

The end result would be a compact ESC unit that would run cool. It would have two sets of motor leads coming out. One set of battery power leads, and one receiver hook up. :yes:

sleebus.jones 01.18.2008 01:12 PM

Oooooo. Looks like that may be just what the doctor ordered!

It's actually made for cars! *faints*

Snelle, hopefully it survives the weekend. If so, I'm putting one on order to run my emaxx. However, that seller doesn't have any for sale now...

Serum 01.18.2008 01:28 PM

That's not the shrink wrap you get from maxamps; this one is thicker. (and more flexible) the only type i've known for ages.. It's way more flexible than the normal shrink wrap you buy for batteries.

snellemin 01.18.2008 01:32 PM

Yes, Lets hope it survives this weekend. If it does, it will be a nice alternative to the mamba esc in my rustler. Gets to be a hassle plugging it in the laptop at the track. I can barely see the screen in the sun.

I hope this won't effect Mike ESC sales.

snellemin 01.18.2008 02:00 PM

Which heatshrink are you talking about Serum? The one that I'm using?

phildogg 01.18.2008 03:42 PM

yeah keep us posted about how well it works for ya.
phil

neweuser 01.18.2008 04:00 PM

Yes he is talking about the shrink on the ESC you used. It seems "rubbery"? Or thicker.

johnrobholmes 01.18.2008 05:12 PM

Yes, I want to know where I can get the thick rubbery shrink.

snellemin 01.18.2008 05:43 PM

I got my heatshrink for Altex here in Houston. It's the same one I used on my batteries and it's hard. Zero Flex (looks deceiving). I like it since it keeps my batteries nice and warm for dragracing. Tashpop has seen it.

neweuser 01.18.2008 05:51 PM

I like it a lot....it looks sturdy.

tom255 01.18.2008 05:56 PM

its good that all you speak about shrink wraps :) but i think ESC is more imprtant :)
I hope soon get any feedback about ESC performance, is it worth or not.

neweuser 01.18.2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tom255 (Post 142170)
its good that all you speak about shrink wraps :) but i think ESC is more imprtant :)
I hope soon get any feedback about ESC performance, is it worth or not.

LOL, good point.

BrianG 01.18.2008 06:08 PM

Everyone knows that a good heatshrink job is good for at least an extra 10A and/or 10v! Just like "turbo" or "NOS" stickers add about 10-15HP to any car. :smile:

neweuser 01.18.2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 142178)
Everyone knows that a good heatshrink job is good for at least an extra 10A and/or 10v! Just like "turbo" or "NOS" stickers add about 10-15HP to any car. :smile:

I didn't, but do now! Thanks Brian!

lincpimp 01.18.2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 142178)
Everyone knows that a good heatshrink job is good for at least an extra 10A and/or 10v! Just like "turbo" or "NOS" stickers add about 10-15HP to any car. :smile:

Don't forget that a red paintjob will add at least 5mph to the top speed. Something to do with the refraction of light from the color red that exctly aligns the painted surface to the aparent motion of particles as they approach the speed of light. It also has to do with Brownian motion and has a direct correlation to the space/time continueum. It is all well over my head, but well proven in the origianl Star Trek. Oh, and William Shatner rules!

neweuser 01.18.2008 06:17 PM

I thought I was a nut job....lmao!

snellemin 01.18.2008 06:18 PM

heheheheh, it's cold here man. You should see me, when I put sweaters on my batteries when it hits 30' here.

But during the Summer I just put dual racing stripes around them for that extra ummphh.

Cause everybody knows that I live my life 10 seconds at a time.

suicideneil 01.18.2008 07:32 PM

http://www.modellfun.com/b2b/products/blmonster.php

Im fairly impressed. Check out the youtube vid of the esc & motor system in their 1:10 4wd truck- the brakes seems to very good, and no signs of cogging either. Top speed isnt too bad either = 43mph. This isnt with the 120amp esc though, but a 50amp 3s version.

lincpimp 01.18.2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 142182)
Cause everybody knows that I live my life 10 seconds at a time.


Funny you should say that, I live my life 1/4 mile at a time!

snellemin 01.18.2008 08:36 PM

Yea, but do u have NOS...The big ones!

lincpimp 01.18.2008 08:40 PM

No, but I am sure that I can overnight some from Japan!

crazyjr 01.18.2008 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 142209)
http://www.modellfun.com/b2b/products/blmonster.php

Im fairly impressed. Check out the youtube vid of the esc & motor system in their 1:10 4wd truck- the brakes seems to very good, and no signs of cogging either. Top speed isnt too bad either = 43mph. This isnt with the 120amp esc though, but a 50amp 3s version.

they got some good looking batteries as well, no idea of price.
http://www.modellfun.com/b2b/product..._Batteries.php

snellemin 01.18.2008 11:07 PM

Everything I know, I learned from F&F.

lincpimp 01.19.2008 12:17 AM

Yes, I learned that I should never granny shift, or forget to double clutch!

snellemin 01.20.2008 11:49 PM

I blew a FET today. I didn't even get to race it. Mucho sucko. I used the mamba as a replacement, which handled 6s1p A123 ok. It shutdown once.

tom255 01.21.2008 02:24 AM

So it means that ESC not worth? Maybe i will stay away from it...

snellemin 01.21.2008 12:29 PM

I might of gotten a fluke. I'm sending it back for a replacement and requested upgraded caps.


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