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rhylsadar 02.01.2008 06:22 PM

schulze new future XXL esc, 40.300K, WK
 
hi

schulze just anounnced some new future controller: future xxl 40.300K (with a heatsink) and WK (watercooling). some may be interested in this 'monster'.

300A constant (400A surge), 10-40c nimh, 3-14s lipo, 146*95*36mm, 460g (!) weight, universal programming with DIL switches etc, price: tba, 2nd quartal of 08.

http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.d...fut-xxl-3i.jpg

shown without 'case'.

source: http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/

bye
rhylsadar

Serum 02.01.2008 06:31 PM

Soon to be found in your Prius!

460grams, and the size of spain!

With all respect, this puppy has impressive specs, too bad it's that large and heavy.

I guess it will be ideal for the huge boats and planes.

ClodMaxx 02.01.2008 06:31 PM

wow - now that's HV!

wait... it's over.... one pound?!

GorillaMaxx360 02.01.2008 06:31 PM

that thing is huge.

BrianG 02.01.2008 06:35 PM

With that size, voltage, and current capability, should make a very nice fireworks display. :wink:

rhylsadar 02.01.2008 06:37 PM

quite heavy :angel: maybe more suitable in a largescale conversion.

rhylsadar

BrianG 02.01.2008 06:39 PM

You'll probably need to take out a loan to buy it though...

coolhandcountry 02.01.2008 06:41 PM

Great time of day. That thing is huge. Man if it was only smaller and didn't fry on hook up.

lincpimp 02.01.2008 07:33 PM

I am disapointed that it does not have a center diff and provisions for front and rear gearbox mounting. Would make a good dual purpose chassis/esc for a buggy, or something else large.

suicideneil 02.01.2008 07:36 PM

Its alot of money for a solar-igniter....

MetalMan 02.02.2008 01:53 AM

Those aren't 3.5mm connectors, are they? And to think there are already problems with 3.5mm connectors on the MUCH smaller 18.97kwf.

johnrobholmes 02.02.2008 01:58 AM

I was wondering about the connector size as well :lol:

jhautz 02.02.2008 02:23 AM

knowing schulze the price will be as big and heavy as the controller.

Serum 02.02.2008 04:16 AM

times 1.46, with the current dollar/euro rating..

those plugs look bigger than 3.5's though.

rhylsadar 02.02.2008 05:33 AM

hi

imo this esc will be great in 6th scale conversion. maybe in the watercooling version with a bolido or a big lehner.

i wonder if they bring a new more 8th scale compatible esc like the 24.150 that was in their catalog.

they have also some new 'value futures' out. however they seem to programmed with 'boatmodus'. a 24.60oW for around 94euro incl 19% vat. that sounds like a nice price for a nice little esc.

those plugs look like 6mm gold plugs to me. thats the size the 40.160wk had mounted.
the problem with the 3.5mm on the 18.97 i 'solved' with just plugging in a short wire with the 3.5mm plugs and 4mm gold plugs on the other side to the motor.

i expected the 'fire hint' in here. kinda bias against schulze. :party:
on average they do not tend to burn more easily than any other.

bye
rhylsadar

Serum 02.02.2008 05:58 AM

It's not a problem that they go up in smoke, the problem is their worthless after-sales once it is smoked (wouldn't dare to call it anything near service) With all respect; their loose contact arguement is getting old..

You could see this coming i guess, after stating that they don't go up in smore more easily than others.. :whistle:

JERRY2KONE 02.02.2008 06:12 AM

Still
 
Still even with all of that said you can bet that we will see one on here at some point mounted on a Maxx or a Revo with a very large AXI motor or something like that under the hood. Man just cannot resist a challenge like that. Someone will do it.:lol:

johnrobholmes 02.02.2008 10:58 AM

I owned two Shulze's. I had two ESCs that broke within 5 minutes of using them. I had to wait over 3 months for service, only to get them back and have the optocouple fail again on both. My experience with them was not good.

rhylsadar 02.02.2008 11:32 AM

hi

if i was sitting in the US i would probably also buy parts where i could deal with warranty etc in the country itself.
however if two esc burn within 5min there is a very high probability that something was wrong on principle basis. technical problem or something else.
i for myself and some rc colleagues here have made quite good experience with serveral schulzes.

but i guess its not about our schulze experiences here its just an announcement of some new product that will come out in some month.

bye
rhylsadar

Serum 02.02.2008 02:09 PM

It's not bad to discuss this schulze warrantee here. They simple sucked at it. No way around it. Since they are in Germany that was a reason for me to buy it; it's relative close. Back then it was wrong choice for sure. They treated me bad and pretty much called me a liar.

To be honest, i can't believe their service still is that bad, like it was 3 or 4 years ago, perhaps you have got better experiences with warrantee claims over the time?

Serum 02.02.2008 02:12 PM

Come to think about it; I bought a schulze receiver 1 year back; at a certain point channel 1 stopped functioning. Sent it back, needed to pay 17 euro for repair costs. The thing was a few months old. I guess they still don't get it

rhylsadar 02.02.2008 03:25 PM

my experience is not too bad. two times we sent an esc in for 'service'.
it came back like new and it the cost was something like 50euro with shipping.
for my burned one i could buy a new one with 30% off. it was my fault the esc went up in smoke, because the tranny was nearly blocked because i made a mistake in the hurry i was fixing the center tranny it in the pit. full throttle with a hard tranny in the summer was too much. my guess is that many of the burned 18.97kw in those days, some years ago, were due to a too long gearing with the bigmaxximum (savages fixed in 2nd gear etc). by then we were not so experienced. by now motors with lower rpmv are used in the big trucks than the bigmaxxium. the big maxximum cannot be geared very long its too high rpmv. those who were driving the bigmaxx with the tranny locked in 1st gear never had heat issues. however i agree that they are not very 'nice' in e mail contacts there.


i see that castle for instance is very accomodating in replacing burned esc etc. however i guess in many cases the users can just be lucky because i am quite sure that many failures are due to a wrong handling of the esc. but who knows. i may be wrong.

however my target is to avoid warranty issues at all. :party: so actually i do not care that much about it.

bye
rhylsadar

MetalMan 02.03.2008 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum (Post 145957)
those plugs look bigger than 3.5's though.

They look like 3.5mm to me, unless Schulze came out with a bigger plug that looks exactly like the 3.5mm ones.

Serum 02.03.2008 04:42 AM

they did metal. they are schulze 6mm plugs.

MetalMan 02.03.2008 01:37 PM

Damn, if those plugs are 6mm, then that ESC is more than huge, it's GIGANTIC! It's about 6" x 4" by 1.5". That's bigger than a lot of the batteries we use.

I'm curious why Schulze decided to basically enlarge their 3.5mm connector, when there were issues with the design on their previous ESCs.

Serum 02.03.2008 01:45 PM

LOL! you could take your entire family on holiday and loose eachother on it..


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