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Hey all, I am looking towards the 4200 and 5300 lehner motors. Can they handle 12 sanyo 2400 cells?

What would be the best option? I want this pede to go so fast, that the tires melt off and the pavement ignites and the wheels rip away and break the sound barrier and and and and, you get the point :) :)

no upgrades yet, want the idler and cvd's...

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Assume I will strengthen the pede like I did my maxx, BEEFY tranny and diffs etc, and assume I gear low enough, stock spur/14t pinion- masher2k tires, also assume I run it easy and only open her up for a few seconds at a time and don't beat it around much.

thoughts?

Well the Lehner Basic series can get a little hairy above 10 cells. Personally I'd reccomend a lower rpm rating, as you're pushing 70,000 rpms.

Go ahead and put a Lehner in a Pede, just don't run more than maybe 9 cells at most......it's stupid, in a bad way. I ran a 5300 in a Pede for quite a while, got it up to 40 on 7 cheapo GP3300 cells, I know it could have gone faster, but didn't really want it to. Sure, it was cool to see a yellow CJ8 topped monster bombing across a parking lot while wheelying half the distance, but it was a handful to drive at speed. There was still a bit of water in the Masher 2000's foam (from mudding a week earlier), so all 4 wheels were bobbling, ESPECIALLY the front....they were darn near coming off the ground. This made the whole truck begin to violently shake, and I had to fight it to keep from rolling......nerve racking, to say the least. Braking was even more fun because the rear wanted to swap ends with the front, so lots of counter steer was needed while it fishtailed down to about 20 and finally acted tame. The 5300 was easily too much power despite being geared 17/90 or so, but made for some fun bashing with the constant abundance of torque and speed......I just wish the truck could have handled better.

Yeah, 12 cells is a bit much for the pede. 8 cells with the 4200 motor is pretty hairy, but it is pretty fun as well. You will definately need some strength in the tranny (aluminum idler/steel diff gear-I can offer both). I run the 4200 in my pede, with 11.1 volt Lipos(extended chassis, maxx conversion with komodo tires) and it is a ton of fun, but too fast if I go full tilt. The pede is a great little truck (fun, inexpensive easy to work on and tough).

thanks
 

yea, well thanks, lots of insight!!!

How would things hold up with ten cells then, a pack of four and another of six in series?

mated with a 5300, for instance? assuming I don't squeeze the throttle too hard?

Just curious, I am looking for something with a lot of power and a lot left to give, even if it becomes unstable. The fun in it is GETTING it to be a bit more stable, and working with its handling. I don't think I would run twelve though if I thought it would actually be harmful to the motor. Can these lehners even take 12 cells? They look like they are rated to ten alright, but what about twelve? ('handling' aside):rolleyes:

I wouldn't go above 8 cells with the 5300. The 4200 can take 10 or so cells on occasion, though. Stick with the 4200 when you are using the higher voltages. It will get a much better runtime and the power will be plentiful.

Don't even think about installing it before beefing up the driveline. The obvious change is an aluminum idler gear, which will NOT cause radio interference (as long as you goop enough grease on it) and will just be strong. You can use the stock sliders until the outdrives die (prob. not that long), and then switch to steel outdrives. CVD's can limit shock travel, so stick with the sliders as long as possible. The other option is to use HPI MT dogbones and CVD outdrives, but they can get quite a bit of play.....still, they work quite well.

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I have four packs of sanyo 2400's, stickpacks. I want to use them with the 5300. Should I wire them to double the runtime and keep the voltage the same? I am just wondering- I would love to just wire them in series and have two twelve cell packs. If that is too much, then it's too much. However shouldn't I be able to technically do it as long as I don't gun the thing? Otherwise, yea I would probably run them parallel.

Just break them up and re-solder them into 3 8cell packs.

great ideae
 

very very good idea. I wonder what the top speed will be with this set up? Well great idea none the less.

is a lehner 5300 with eight cells more capable than a 4200 with ten?

alright, great idea, I should break these packs up and end up with three eight cell packs.

thanks all who responded.

The 4200 on 8 cells is more than enough. Trust me! Enough to put your pede into the 50+ mph range, if you can keep it on the road!

the power a BL setup can throw out, is depending on the quality of the cells you'r using. a 6 cell setup might be able to be more powerfull than a 12 cell setup. the 4200 on 10 cells will be more powerfull than the 5300 on 8.. though the 4200 on 8 is quite a handfull allready.