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DRIFT_BUGGY 11.30.2008 04:46 AM

4-Pole Timing
 
I have had a few people tell me that the D wind motors should be run on Low timing and the Y Med-High and others have said that it is best for 4-pole motors to run on Med-High. Anyone had expereince in running different timing with 4-pole motors?

sikeston34m 11.30.2008 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DRIFT_BUGGY (Post 237375)
I have had a few people tell me that the D wind motors should be run on Low timing and the Y Med-High and others have said that it is best for 4-pole motors to run on Med-High. Anyone had expereince in running different timing with 4-pole motors?

From what I understand, being Delta wound or Wye Wound doesn't make any difference as far as timing goes.

However, the number of poles a motor has does make a difference.

2 Pole motors usually can only tolerate Low-Med timing.

Where as, a 12 pole outrunner likes to be run on High Timing.

I've always ran the highest timing a motor would tolerate and let temperatures be your guide. :yes:

If your timing is too high, it will run Hot and needs less timing.

I'm running a Medusa 36-60-1500kv in an E Revo with 18/40 gearing on 6S. It's timing is set to High and does just fine. However, I do have a fan/heat sink on the motor.

The Medusa is a 4 Pole motor. I hope this helps.

speedracer1129 11.30.2008 04:36 PM

Here it is from Neu directly:

General Castle Creation ESC settings for all Neumotors:


1) LVC—settings depend on your setup and number of cells.


2) Current limit disabled for high F5B power setups—up to user for other applications.


3) Brake—depends on user needs. Sport planes usually have brake off. The newer versions of software offer user selectable braking for larger F3A and IMAC stunt planes.


4) Throttle type—fixed.


5) For most uses the low advance setting is best—motors have better efficiency. “Y” wind motors can use medium advance for a little more power or speed. “D” wind motors should always use low advance as there is no improvement with higher advance settings.


6) Cutoff—up to user.


7) Startup—depends on use. Sport planes the soft start is good. For contest planes the fast start is best.


8) PWM frequency –the lowest settings work well with all Neumotors 11/13KHz.





Settings for “other” brushless ESCs:


1) 11XX,15XX and 22XX series of motors are all 4 pole designs. 19XX series are 8 poles and the 44XX series are 12 poles.


2) Use low (0-10 degrees)or medium(10-15 degrees) advance settings for “Y” wind motors and low (0-10 degrees) advance settings for “D” wind versions.


3) Brake settings are up to the user and application.

BL_RV0 11.30.2008 04:45 PM

Sorry to hijack, but 44XX neu motors? Where?

speedracer1129 11.30.2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 237519)
Sorry to hijack, but 44XX neu motors? Where?

I just copied and pasted....:neutral:


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