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SnoopMaxx 01.17.2009 10:14 AM

Johnson monster motor
 
Hi I have this really big johnson motor from a cordless drill
I think it´s this one
HC887G-001
How do you think it will perform in my 3906 ?
What would be a good starting gear ratio ?

I an rebuilding my E-Maxx with 3.3 drive line and if or WHEN I break the diff I want to switch to LST diff´s

_paralyzed_ 01.17.2009 04:01 PM

it'll work okay. do it up if that's what you desire. 15/66 is a good starting point. of course a motor without brushes would be better.

SnoopMaxx 01.17.2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 253101)
it'll work okay. do it up if that's what you desire. 15/66 is a good starting point. of course a motor without brushes would be better.

Yes a MMM and a 1515 or a 7XL :lol:
But it was free ....I love free stuff
It has a 12T 32P already press fit on
The motor is 48mm in dia. compared to 36 mm of a 550
so how am I gonna mate the 66T to a12T or a 15T ???

I finished the rebuild to 3.3
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...x/HPIM2348.jpg

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z...x/HPIM2349.jpg

suicideneil 01.17.2009 05:49 PM

I would suggest getting a pinion puller to remove the pressed on pinion, then file a flat spot on the shaft so you can use normal pinions.

If you are going to use it as a single motor on its own in the maxx, I'd say gear it pretty much the same as you would a pair of titans that it replaces, something like 18/72 to start with, then work down on the spur or up on the pinion until you are happy or the motor starts to run too hot (outside of its most efficient gearing range).

SnoopMaxx 01.17.2009 09:51 PM

Well it needs a custom motor plate, The spacing is 32mm
This thing is huge :lol:
Im gonna go out tomorrow and bash the h... out of my maxx :party:
and this time I hope I woun´t break anything :whistle:

_paralyzed_ 01.17.2009 10:51 PM

kershaw designs will have a motor plate for you

SnoopMaxx 01.18.2009 07:22 AM

I know :smile:
But I´m gonna convert to a Revo slipper and steel idler as well
And I will fab a custom motor plate

EDIT:
I just looked at Kershaw´s 970 motor and that´s the same size as mine
so pinion gear will have to be 28T-32T with a 70T spur

Tempted 01.18.2009 07:12 PM

Why not use a smaller spur and 22t pinion. 66t is stock on the 3906, 68t on the 3905. Notice the operating voltage of that motor, your EVX won't power it at its most efficient RPM(18v). I wouldn't use it personally, my bet is it will be slower than stock.

SnoopMaxx 01.18.2009 08:28 PM

My EVX fried a few years ago and my lhs was gonna send it in for repair but "forgot" to :whip:
I now use a Mtroniks Super E-Truck :party:

any one know witch ESC I can use to power a 970 size motor other than the MMM ??

Tempted 01.18.2009 08:59 PM

My question is why? 970 motors are pretty much junk in RC applications. Too big, too heavy, too much battery power required. They add a metric ton and require too much work stiffening and upgrading stuff that can't handle the weight.

SnoopMaxx 01.19.2009 11:47 AM

Well it was free stuff :tongue:

And I want to bash In water so I may just end with the Titan 775 from the new Summit

Any one tried two Revo springs on one shock ?

lincpimp 01.19.2009 12:10 PM

A mm should hadle the 970 fine if you are doing 14cells nimh or 4s lipo max. If you are going higher then the MMM is the best bet. Price will be about the same once you add a ubec to the MM so the MMM is most likely the way to go. Or a novak super duty brushed esc, but the MMM will be more versatile and has computer programability. Hard to fine a better esc that the CC ones, they are very versatile and the price is almost too good to be true...

JERRY2KONE 01.19.2009 12:43 PM

3906
 
Yea I am rebuilding a 3906 RCM monster myself and using two Dewalt 970 motors as well. I have the Kershaw Designs motor mounting plate and I am using the Novak Super Duty XR ESC. I am also using the RCM hybrid bulks with the HPI Lightning hardened diff gear setup. From what I can tell it will all work out just fine for what I want. I have plenty of gearing options due to the stocks that I have built up along the way. Sure it will be a little bit top heavy due to the setup, but it is a basher so who cares. I am planning to mount the battery packs below the chassis in order to compensate for these heavy motors being so high up. Hopefully this will counter act things a bit and lower the center of gravity for the setup. You have the motor already in hand so set it up and have some fun. There are a few guys on here who have already done this project with either Johnson or Dewalt motors and they seemed to have done ok and have had some fun with the project. So enjoy.:party:

SnoopMaxx 01.19.2009 03:08 PM

Thank´s guys :party:

One more thing to add to the list
RPM Blue Shock Tower


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