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hyperasus 03.22.2009 07:45 PM

Whatever happened to maxamps cut throat pricing?
 
Is it just more or do the prices at maxamps seem awful high these days. Where is everyone buying batteries these days?

Metallover 03.22.2009 07:58 PM

Look here or on tower etc. Neu packs are great bang for the buck. Flightpowers are also very good as well... Zippy batteries are the best bang for the buck, but lack the quaility of enerland cell based packs. The zippy packs are a large step above of maxamps, but still can't quite compare with better brands when it comes to construction etc.

magman 03.22.2009 08:15 PM

For the reason that the Zippy's can come appart is the reason that I went w/a custom batt. tray made by Mike to just fit those specific batteries.. There is no movement when the batts. are in the truck, extremely snug and so far, knock on wood no probs.!

All my batteries have custom trays made by Mike....It does help keep the cells nice and tight

jsr 03.22.2009 08:22 PM

Not all zippys are well soldered. The flightmax 4000mAh 2s hardcase packs have horrible soldering that will open circuit on anything above 60A. The packs are rated for 100A tho. I don't doubt the cells are 100A cells, but the extremely poor soldering bring them down a lot. Just an fyi. Other zippys don't seem this poorly soldered.

lincpimp 03.22.2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jsr (Post 272304)
Not all zippys are well soldered. The flightmax 4000mAh 2s hardcase packs have horrible soldering that will open circuit on anything above 60A. The packs are rated for 100A tho. I don't doubt the cells are 100A cells, but the extremely poor soldering bring them down a lot. Just an fyi. Other zippys don't seem this poorly soldered.

I do remember reading about that. Thise packs are less than 30 bucks though... Good price, even if you have to pop them open and check them out.

E-Revonut 03.22.2009 08:51 PM

MA pricing has went through the roof! I was on their site last week doing some price comparrisons between them and Neu. For the MA 5250 packs, 1x 2s and 1x3s it would cost $300. Neu4900xp 6s pack is $189 and then send it to linc and have him seperate it and save aprox $75 and have better cells or go with the 4300xp v5, a 3s + 2s setup will cost $168 and the packs will take a 5C charge! At that price you can almost get 2 sets of Neu 4300 packs for the cost of one set of MA packs!

traxxasrevony 03.22.2009 08:54 PM

i will most likely allways buy maxamps packs, just for the warrenty they offer.

sikeston34m 03.22.2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 272318)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever actually tried to get MA to make good on their warranty? You have to beg, plead, and promise to get them to do anything! Esspecially if dealling with Jason. I did eventually get my packs replaced but the new packs aren't covered. According to them their packs weren't strong enough for my setup! Apparently I was drawing more than 120amps continous or peaks of more than 240 with my E-Revo geared for 36MPH! Buy quality cells for less! If a Neu pack gives you problems I'd be very surprised for one but at least it would be something worth sending to Linc and saving!

Dude! That's ONE POWER HUNGRY Revo you have there! :yes:

What's_nitro? 03.22.2009 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by sikeston34m (Post 272332)
Dude! That's ONE POWER HUNGRY Revo you have there! :yes:

His car broke down. He had to tow it home! :lol:

Hydrodancer 03.22.2009 10:24 PM

Lincpimp Please empty your mailbox.
I got dibs on the FP

Unsullied_Spy 03.22.2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 272318)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever actually tried to get MA to make good on their warranty? You have to beg, plead, and promise to get them to do anything! Esspecially if dealling with Jason. I did eventually get my packs replaced but the new packs aren't covered. According to them their packs weren't strong enough for my setup! Apparently I was drawing more than 120amps continous or peaks of more than 240 with my E-Revo geared for 36MPH! Buy quality cells for less! If a Neu pack gives you problems I'd be very surprised for one but at least it would be something worth sending to Linc and saving!

Uh ohh, I'm assuming those were 8k packs...I've got 2 2s 8k packs that I just E-Mailed them about, too bad I hadn't run across this forum BEFORE buying $400 worth of junk lipos.

As for Zippy vs. Maxamps, after owning 4 Maxamps packs and 1 Zippy I'm convinced that Zippy is the way to go if you aren't made of money. Sure they have a few problems here and there but for the price you get a good lipo. People try to compare them to Enerland lipos too often, they're half the price of an Enerland and the performance is good enough for what you pay. Mine held it's balance much better than any MA pack I've ever owned and ran cooler while providing good power and it was my own fault that it got messed up--I have no reason not to buy them again.

Hydrodancer 03.22.2009 10:46 PM

Is there any truth to the rumors that the zippy packs are causing esc's to fail?

Unsullied_Spy 03.22.2009 11:38 PM

I imagine if you gear stupidly high you could get the voltage to drop low enough to get some ripple current, but I ran mine with a Neu 1515 1.5D in a heavy Truggy with 40 series wheels/tires and my MGM handled it just fine but I keep my gearing so that my entire system runs stable.

Jeremy1976 03.23.2009 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 272318)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have you ever actually tried to get MA to make good on their warranty? You have to beg, plead, and promise to get them to do anything! Esspecially if dealling with Jason. I did eventually get my packs replaced but the new packs aren't covered. According to them their packs weren't strong enough for my setup! Apparently I was drawing more than 120amps continous or peaks of more than 240 with my E-Revo geared for 36MPH! Buy quality cells for less! If a Neu pack gives you problems I'd be very surprised for one but at least it would be something worth sending to Linc and saving!

I actually had good luck with there CS and a cell that was bad in a 2s 8k pack. I did notice on the MA packs that the difference in cell voltage after being discharged was much greater than any of my packs I own now.

I now own a SPC 2s 5000mah 15c pack, a Polyquest 2s 5000mah 30c pack, and a Poly R/C 3s 5000mah 30c pack. Here is where I bought my Poly R/C pack from. Great price and free shipping. This place deals with only Enerland.

http://www.rclipos.com/

lincpimp 03.23.2009 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrodancer (Post 272348)
Is there any truth to the rumors that the zippy packs are causing esc's to fail?

i have a feeling a combination of poor setup and general mfg tolerances are causing the failures, not a specific lipo brand... lipos are all made with the same basic tech, so packs that perform the same will yeild the same results. the fact that the first rtr 8th scale bl setup is having issues is related to the people who are buying them, not the actual equipment. i can imagine that most here that buy one will not have issues, no matter what lipos they run...

i have used all kinds of lipos and have found the weak ones will get way out of balance or puff. all of the maxamps packs i have run have not achieved their specs, so they are overrated, and thus vay overpriced. maxamps will not provide discharge graphs either.

their cell quality may have improved, but i still think there are batter products on the market for comparable prices. i expect the entire enerland 25c lipo line to come down in price alot as the various 40c cells become more common.


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