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lincpimp 04.15.2009 12:20 PM

Another Muggy Conversion
 
So I finally decided to convert the muggy. I picked it up about 6 months ago real cheap and just decided to do something to it. I had it partially pulled apart as I pirated a few parts for the 6x6 lst build.

I have stripped it completely down, all the way to the diff internals. Rebuild all 3 diffs, with new hd losi cups on the rear and center. Put 30k fluid in the rear and center diffs, and 50k in the front. Seems to be about right for the 40 series tires, same weights in the lst and it puts the power down well.

All bearings cleaned and relubed, all cvds rebuilt too. It currently has lst1 arms and hubs on it, as I was waiting on the lst2 stuff to arrive. I took the original arms and hubs off for the 6x6. I may just run it like this and see how it holds up. I bent the rear tierod on the aftershock the first time i ran it, so I do not have high hopes for the lst1 arms....

So I put it all back together with a rcm mount, and some sort of 49t spur (no idea where it came from, got it with the muggy). I had to clearance the chassis where the spur sits, and also had to clearance the top plate. With the c50 and this spur I can run a 15t pinion to get around 40mph. I also went thru the shocks, all I had to do was clean the outsides and fill the front shocks.

I modded the stock radio tray to hold a single servo. Pretty easy to do, I just cut the throttle servo mount portion off, and drilled a hole in it to attach to the center post that hold the tray on. So it now has 2 front posts, and the center post as the rear support. Used a jato turnbuckle with revo pushrod ends to make a link to the saver. Still need to do the steering mod and add bearings.

Power system is a hacker c50 11xl (1476kv) with a MMM on 6s lipo. Stole the battery tray out of the lst, and made some risers out of delrin to clear the raised edge of the chassis. Made an esc mount out of the delrin. All of the delrin mounts are held in with screws thru stock holes on the chassis. I have not drilled one hole in the chassis. I also took the router to the delrin risers and made channels in them to route the MMM signal wire to the rec. Did the same to the esc mount so that I could put a ziptie on to hold the esc down. First time I have seem this, keeps the wire out of the way, and safe too.

Almost finished, just need to put a deans plug on the esc and program it. I will wait to dye the delrin parts, as I would like to do everything in one batch.

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suicideneil 04.15.2009 12:31 PM

That is a rather clever idea with the routing, gotta like fewer wires dangling allover the place :yes: Shame the servo lead isnt a bit longer- you could route it along and under the battery tray & have it emerging in the same spot as the esc's rx lead to plug into the rx.

lincpimp 04.15.2009 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 279442)
That is a rather clever idea with the routing, gotta like fewer wires dangling allover the place :yes: Shame the servo lead isnt a bit longer- you could route it along and under the battery tray & have it emerging in the same spot as the esc's rx lead to plug into the rx.

That lead is a bit short. I will just ziptie it to the front chassis brace, the rec will go directly behind the front shock tower.

drkdgglr 04.15.2009 12:56 PM

looks like a robinson racing wide spur

riverat1540 04.15.2009 06:09 PM

sure, i mention a muggy and here we go, well im glad u finally decided to start the conversion, and ill be right behind u with mine,lol

_paralyzed_ 04.15.2009 07:18 PM

is that green stuff going to be your new trademark?:lol:

lincpimp 04.15.2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by drkdgglr (Post 279457)
looks like a robinson racing wide spur

Ok, it is a great spur, I set the mesh and it is about as quiet as a plastic spur...

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Originally Posted by riverat1540 (Post 279565)
sure, i mention a muggy and here we go, well im glad u finally decided to start the conversion, and ill be right behind u with mine,lol

Sounds good, i will keep my eye on your thread!

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 279588)
is that green stuff going to be your new trademark?:lol:

Seems like it, huh! My buddy who works at the fabrication shop brought a bunch of it to me. He said they used it to cover up polished stainless panels when they were welding on them. It is cut into weird stop sign shapes, but each piece is at least 1ft square... Free is free, and I hope it dyes well....

bmperrin985 04.15.2009 07:56 PM

muggy
 
Nice work with the delrin.Muggy looks sweet!You get a chance to take those measurements on the 5b?Or will it be called the "5-J"?It should be interesting to see my beat-up-hand-me-down-worn-out-diff-breaking-tire-slinging-p.o.s- LST1 get beat up by your muggy:lol:That's o.k. though cuz I'm kinda' used to it. Word!

lincpimp 04.15.2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bmperrin985 (Post 279604)
Nice work with the delrin.Muggy looks sweet!You get a chance to take those measurements on the 5b?Or will it be called the "5-J"?It should be interesting to see my beat-up-hand-me-down-worn-out-diff-breaking-tire-slinging-p.o.s- LST1 get beat up by your muggy:lol:That's o.k. though cuz I'm kinda' used to it. Word!

Welcome B! I need to get the 5j on the table and get some eyeballing done on the mount...

I am sure your lst will be every bit as gangsta as the muggy!

To everyone else B is my buddy who can weld al and get laser cutting done. He loves to make stuff and has some real fabricating talent! He gets me all kinds of material too, like the gangsta green (word) delrin that I have been making stuff with. He is also throwed off, so I am sure you guys will have a good laugh at us going back and forth like idiots...

lincpimp 04.15.2009 10:50 PM

So I ran the muggy for a few minutes earlier... The front tires were about to blow off the rims... So I had a look at my fluid collection and found some AE 100000 wt oil. I have 50k in there right now, and it feels like water in the diff... I will put the 100k stuff in and give it a try. I will say that it has some serious punch, and I cannot even get it up to speed, the front tires just blow up when the rear is loaded. It turns like a buggy though, I have a feeling this will be the truggy that I like...

riverat1540 04.15.2009 10:52 PM

good to know, cant wait to see how 100k works

lincpimp 04.15.2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by riverat1540 (Post 279665)
good to know, cant wait to see how 100k works

I have a feeling it will work well. Seems like heavy fluid to use, but this truck is a few pounds heavier than a truggy, so more load on the center diff and most truggies have slightly more reduction in the diffs (10/43 vs 11/45 for the muggy) so they do not work the center diff quite as hard. Also I am running 40 series wheels and tires, so a bit more weight/load there too. And I have a hacker c50 xl on 6s, not a low torque setup by any means!

drkdgglr 04.16.2009 02:43 AM

This is what a Muggy does to people:

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 275438)
I have no idea if I will even like the muggy(I have something against truggies)

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 279663)
I have a feeling this will be the truggy that I like...


ilpufxit 04.16.2009 09:35 AM

Muggy??
 
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Here's my one of a kind Muggy with 8ight body and custom chassis brace. Fresh from battle, it will do a wing stand at almost any speed! Not as agile as my 8ight-T but what an awesome machine.

riverat1540 04.16.2009 09:37 AM

if u put truggy tires on a muggy is it still a muggy?lol:lol:


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