very sad savages...
 

my buddy got these 2 savage 21s from his friend. his friend bought them new for his kids ran a few times then put in a plastic box and sat in garage. now look at them we picked them up for $50 for the pair.... thinking of converting to brushless....one motor is seized up and every freaking screw is rusted tight
the other one spins but still needs lotsa work. im a electric guy myself with a bl rc18t.
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y28...f/100_2330.jpg
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Yeah convert them.

anyone got any recomendations on cheap conversion ? i was thinking of the kershaw motor mount that still uses the tranny its perty dang cheap at $20 but the brushless motor esc is really complexing theres so many im not gunna run lipo so i want somthing that will do well with some good nimhs...

Those are some very sad savages. Those things need an overhaul.

for a non-lipo or lipo setup, this setup is pretty solid now that they have the v2 motor.

http://www.nitrorcx.com/ezrun-brushl...-combo-c2.html

the max cell ratings for the motor and esc are 14cell nimh or 4s lipo. you can get 2 2s lipos for only $20 each and there is a good charger for $38.

http://hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store..._15C_Lipo_Pack
those lipos are actually 20c-30c.

this is the charger i have and it will work for just about all types of batteries.
http://hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store...lancer/Charger

That's almost as sad as seeing the neglected and starving children of this world. At least that's what I saw in the pictures. If there would of been an 800 number I would of adopted one for $5 week with a photo of the one I adopted to follow after first payment cleared.

Good luck.

Doesnt have to be BL, especially if its just for kids, and lipo isnt 100% required either given the kid factor. An evx2 or Novak Superduty xr esc would be fine, then a pair of kersaw drill motors (skip the titans, junk motors) and a pair of 6/7 cell nimhs would be ideal.

Maybe a dewalt 820 motor? I hear they're good.

well there not for kids. i have thought of not going brushless but i really dont like the evx and that ezruns system looks perty good for the price. i dont need massive power.... just better then brushed. i really only wanna run one motor and with brushed i have a feeling id need 2 also im not gunna run lipos u just like nimhs there simple and i understand them better no fancy charger no blowing up and usually cheaper...

I don't trust those motors. IMO just spend the $ and get a medusa 70/80mm and a MMM. Great service from both companies. Far as lipos go- you can get a charger with build in power supply for around $50. Lipo(s) for 1 truck would cost you $50-60 if you go with the turnigy 15c (actually 20c) packs.

why not just go with a mamba combo esc and a 2200 motor

No reason why not. Medusa has been very good to me though so I try to recommend their products whenever they'd work.

i think all u need is a new air filter and a 5.9 and new 3 speed trany and ur good to go lol.