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himalaya 06.25.2009 02:34 AM

Enerland was left alone, FYI
 
Just read this, thought you guys might be interested (lincpimp, lutach, BrianG, Suicideneil, zeropointbug, etc :wink:)

Well known LiPo brands have left Enerland one by one, TP, Hyperion, ...... FlightPower being the last. :oops:

Enerland annoucement:
http://www.enerland.com/bbs/notice_view.asp

RCG thread, note flightpower's posts:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1035583&page=3

So we are now in an age of Chinese cells.

Finnster 06.25.2009 07:44 AM

With the huge pushes into 1:1 electric and hybrids, sounds like A123 is looking elusively in that direction. The DOE just gave out huge grants the other day to Ford, Nissan, Tesla (?) and perhaps some other autos into elec cars. A123 also recieved a lot of investment money from some of the large blue chips to persue their tech for 1:1s.

really it makes sense for them to put all their R&D into 1:1 as RCs are pretty small scale stuff (hahaha)

FastXR 06.25.2009 08:03 AM

That was some interesting and informative reading Himalaya thanks for the links.

lutach 06.25.2009 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 298879)
Just read this, thought you guys might be interested (lincpimp, lutach, BrianG, Suicideneil, zeropointbug, etc :wink:)

Well known LiPo brands have left Enerland one by one, TP, Hyperion, ...... FlightPower being the last. :oops:

Enerland annoucement:
http://www.enerland.com/bbs/notice_view.asp

RCG thread, note flightpower's posts:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...1035583&page=3

So we are now in an age of Chinese cells.

With China making cheaper cells, of course those guys went to them as they can make more profit. Enerland has proven themselves and if they didn't A123 would've never bought them. That should tell everyone something right there. Maybe the Chinese lipo manufacturers have caught up in technology to the Korean giant. A few of the Chinese real lipo manufacturers have told me that there 25C are mature and the 30-40C are not mature yet and more testing should be done, but it's a risk the brand names has to take.

joeling 06.25.2009 09:29 AM

How about Polyquest ?

lutach 06.25.2009 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joeling (Post 298915)
How about Polyquest ?

PolyQuest is Enerland's brand.

lincpimp 06.25.2009 10:49 AM

Interesting reading, thanks for the links. The various enerland cells have been the only cells I have used that have not had issues. I look forward to gather info on the G3 hyperion packs, and the new 40c tp and 43c fp packs. I will most likely swap over to these newer packs in the year to come.

FG101C 06.25.2009 11:11 AM

Why do the two Polyquest packs I have say "Made in China" on the individual cells?

blueb8llz 06.25.2009 01:19 PM

i too, want to try out those g3 hyperion packs, but how come they only come in 4200 mah or something pretty low? im used to running 5000 mah packs. how much of a time decrease would 800 mah be anyways?

wallot 06.25.2009 01:57 PM

Hyperion G3 35/65C come also in 5000 and 5500mah
I just ordered just 3300mah 5S as they are enough for our short mains and and they are 200g lighter than 5000mah packs

datasheet of all G3 packs http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/g3lipo/G3-Specs-EN.pdf

gixxer 06.25.2009 02:24 PM

interesting, thanks for the info.

himalaya 06.26.2009 12:21 AM

At least we can stop guessing who is enerland cell who's not, they are all not now. :oops:. TP, FP, Neu, Hyperion.....

FP also mentioned a QC improvement, "much much better" cycle life and more friendly price by this transition from Korea to China , good for customers like us.

blueb8llz 06.26.2009 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallot (Post 298969)
Hyperion G3 35/65C come also in 5000 and 5500mah
I just ordered just 3300mah 5S as they are enough for our short mains and and they are 200g lighter than 5000mah packs

datasheet of all G3 packs http://media.hyperion.hk/dn/g3lipo/G3-Specs-EN.pdf

your right...i didnt see those for sale when i checked. they must be rare or hard to find then.

Thomas 06.26.2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 298906)
.. A few of the Chinese real lipo manufacturers have told me that there 25C are mature and the 30-40C are not mature yet and more testing should be done, but it's a risk the brand names has to take.

I've heard from a Chinese LiPo manufacturer that their customers are labelling the packs with higher C rating than what the cells are tested for.

lutach 06.26.2009 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas (Post 299213)
I've heard from a Chinese LiPo manufacturer that their customers are labelling the packs with higher C rating than what the cells are tested for.

That is sometimes common due to everyone's marketing scheme. The moment you see a 40C pack from one guy, you'll see 40C the next day from the other. Then one will claim 40C+ so the other will come in a 48C or 50C or 60C and it'll keep going that way. Same thing goes for ESCs, one company will claim 540A and then here comes one that claims 780A and a lot of people out there really falls for it lol.


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