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DwightSchrute 12.23.2009 10:11 PM

puzzling question about 2 identical 2650 setups...
 
i've got 2 identical monster mamba combos, 2 identical spektrum DX2's and 2 identical losi 8ights. in every way, they are identical...radio settings, motors, pinions, tires....every aspect except one.

the first combo has the motor wires as white, red, and black going into the esc to make it go foward.. the second has it ass backwards. black, red and white is the only way it'll go foward. the radio settings are identical...normal servo setting, normal throttle, etc. why are all my other combos, (i have 5) black, red and white and this one is backwards?

it works just the same, i'm just curious. :surprised:

What's_nitro? 12.23.2009 10:25 PM

Is it just the order of the color of the wires relevant to the ESC case? Meaning both motors have the wires in a "flat" bundle like this- OOO. Or do you have to cross wires on one to make it go forwards?

Sounds like CC just soldered the wires in in a different order...

DwightSchrute 12.23.2009 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 340419)
Is it just the order of the color of the wires relevant to the ESC case? Meaning both motors have the wires in a "flat" bundle like this- OOO. Or do you have to cross wires on one to make it go forwards?

Sounds like CC just soldered the wires in in a different order...

no, i have to cross the wires which is why i'm so curious.

E-Revonut 12.23.2009 10:39 PM

double check the MMM settings, there is a setting to reverse the rotation, one might have gotten switched

DwightSchrute 12.23.2009 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 340425)
double check the MMM settings, there is a setting to reverse the rotation, one might have gotten switched

is that on the newest firmware? i haven't downloaded it yet. i'm still on 3.12 which dosen't have that option. i can live with the reversed wires, i don't think it'll change the speed any.

jokerjustin 12.24.2009 11:53 AM

it wont affect the speed at all.. that will only happen on sensored escs.. just run it the way it is.. the order of the colored wires has nothing to do with the performance

DwightSchrute 12.24.2009 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jokerjustin (Post 340504)
it wont affect the speed at all.. that will only happen on sensored escs.. just run it the way it is.. the order of the colored wires has nothing to do with the performance

thanks for the reply, much appreciated. Merry Christmas. :yes:

nitrostarter 12.24.2009 12:58 PM

I'm sure it's just the MMM settings. If you download the new software, you'll find the option to run normal or reverse motor rotation.

BrianG 12.24.2009 01:17 PM

I would say it's either the ESC setting, or maybe the motor wires were brought out a little differently in each motor. They are hand-wound after all...

DwightSchrute 12.24.2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 340514)
I'm sure it's just the MMM settings. If you download the new software, you'll find the option to run normal or reverse motor rotation.




Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 340520)
I would say it's either the ESC setting, or maybe the motor wires were brought out a little differently in each motor. They are hand-wound after all...

i was gonna download the new Castle Link but saw this warning:

Thank you for using Castle Link software. Users MUST verify that operating amperage is within motor and ESC specifications after upgrading to V3.22 firmware. Outrunner motors may produce significantly higher power with this new version of firmware. The operating amperage may increase, causing higher running temperatures.

Downloading this software signifies that you have read and agree to the above warning.


i'm fine with the crossed wires, but this warning kinda concerned me. I tend to run on the extreme side of setups, and i don't want my temps rising. can anyone elaborate on this?

simplechamp 12.24.2009 07:11 PM

I'm not too sure on the specifics of why that is the case, but since we use inrunners (for the most part) it shouldn't cause any issues.

suicideneil 12.24.2009 10:21 PM

Indeed, the CC motors are inrunners so it wont hurt your setup at all.

DwightSchrute 12.24.2009 11:37 PM

thanks for all the replies, i'll download the new software tomorrow. Merry Christmas!

coolhandcountry 12.25.2009 09:57 AM

Is the center diff and shafts spinning the same direction to the diffs?
Just wondering if the diffs could be in backwards.

riverat1540 12.25.2009 12:29 PM

good thought could not hurt to check as well


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