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JoFreak 04.12.2010 05:32 PM

Can the MMP handle a 6-Pole motor?
 
Hey guys,
the question is in the title: Can the Mamba Max Pro handle a 6 pole BL motor?

I'm asking here, because I didn't get an answer to my last mail to the support, and the answer to the mail before that took weeks...

Cheers,
Jo

Semi Pro 04.12.2010 09:46 PM

depends on what 6 pole motor


what size is it?

i have seen one running a 1515 2.5d on 6cell for weeks with no problems

nitrostarter 04.12.2010 10:02 PM

1515/2.5D is a 4-pole

What's_nitro? 04.12.2010 10:24 PM

It would depend mainly on the RPM limit of the MMP, which I can't seem to find... :neutral:

For example-

If the limit is 210,000 rpm with a 2-pole motor, then a 4-pole motor can be operated up to 105,000 rpm, and a 6-pole can be operated up to 70,000 rpm. Each motor has a mechanical limit, so make sure you don't exceed that. Yes, current draw plays a role as well, but a higher pole motor doesn't draw "more" current per say, just closer to DC current.

JoFreak 04.13.2010 12:01 AM

It would be a Tenshock 2220/6:
5000 rpm/V; Ri 0,004; Max. 12V; Max. 120A
6 pole
Length: 40 mm
Diameter: 38 mm
Diameter Shaft: 5 mm
Weight: 170 g
Max. Power: 1000 W

I would like to use it on 2S in a SCRT10.
So the question remains, can the mmp handle that kind of power in specific and that kind of motor (6-pole that is) in general?

What's_nitro? 04.13.2010 12:24 AM

Well, the motor will never use that much power on 2s and I don't think you'll be near the rpm limit either.

himalaya 04.13.2010 01:18 AM

Be careful to use Tenshock multipole motors. I was trying to drive a Tenshock 2230 with a HobbyWing Seaking 180A(same hardware as Ezrun 150A), it cogs badly when my finger pulls just half trigger. This ESC drives CC Neu 1515 2200KV and Medusa 36-80-1600KV(both are 4 pole) perfectly. Increasing timing advance can delay the cog to 2/3 throttle but never completely went away.

JoFreak 04.13.2010 04:04 AM

Is this a problem with the tenshock or with 6-pole on the mmp in general?

nuz69 04.13.2010 04:16 AM

You will have to find the best timing advance, probably between 15 and 20.

JoFreak 04.13.2010 04:58 AM

But will it be possible to at least nearly eliminate cogging?

nuz69 04.13.2010 05:05 AM

If you find the best timing, yes. Do some tries at home at slow speeds, with a pc nearby to connect the link each times ^^

drkdgglr 04.15.2010 03:44 AM

I've driven a TS 2240/10 with a mmpro on 6s and it only cogged once at half throttle. After that it never cogged again... I've only driven it 2 or three times though. I believe I didn't even adjust the timing.


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