Anyone tried the Losi 1/8 Xcelorin 1300kv motors yet?
 

I just acquired one of these 4 pole motors and they are well built.

The specs say 2S to 5S Lipo, but at 1300kv, should handle 6S also.

This motor is headed for duty in either an E maxx or an E Revo.

Has anyone ran these 1300kv motors?

Tell us about your setup and your experience.

Thanks.

i have not used the losi motors before, but what i've heard, they are better than feigao motors, but not nearly as good as neu motors.

the 5s max rating is due to the POS losi ESC that has a 5s max rating.

I heard Losi got a bad name for the quality of their 1/10th stuff.

I'm sure you are right about the ratings being due to their ESC.

Looks like some good quality here.

Same 4 pole configuration as the Neu, Tekin, Castle-Neu, and the Medusa Motors.

Way over-sized bearings. That shaft is 8mm when it passes through the bearings, before being turned down to the 5mm shaft.

The Motor in these pictures is the 1700kv version. My 1300kv motor is the same, just a different wind.

Have a look:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...LosiMotor1.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...LosiMotor2.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...LosiMotor3.jpg
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...LosiMotor4.jpg

The 1/10 scale stuff is OK, Even the 1/8 motors are pretty decent. It's the 1/8 ESC that are poopy.

wow that does look like it is well made. Only time well tell though. My coworker has the losi 1700kv system in his losi truggy and the losi esc sucks. On 5s the 1700 motor was really fast so if the 1300kv motor is basically the same it should do all right

On a side note..I am liking how all the motor mans are finally allowing us the access to the motors we all want to clean and service

This baby will be powered by a Castle Monster ESC.

I'm thinking 6S in an E maxx might be pretty fun to play around with, if I can locate a G4 Gorillamax Chassis.

I have a pair of 6S Kong Power 26C 2600mah packs that should work well ran parallel. They will fit the E maxx battery tray also.

Does anyone know what heatsinks are available for this 39mm motor?

I know that Losi makes one for the 8eight, but I really don't like that one.

Theses motors heat a lot compared to tekins and Castle motors... I suspect them to be too small and not efficient enough for 1:8 scale application.
The ESC quality is even worse ! :whip:

buggies and truggies are harder on motors due to the center diff. most monster trucks can't put as much power to the ground, so the amp draw stays a little lower. this is speaking from experience, as i have a BL buggy, truggy, and 2 MTs.

i think that motor will be great for what you want to use it for, as long as you watch temps and gear for under 45mph.

I'm really thinking about gearing for around 40mph. I like the low end grunt for bashing. :yes:

Setup for 6S and geared for 40mph could be surprisingly efficient.

I got the motor installed in my E Revo today.

18/52 using Mod 1 is the gearing.

I wasn't very impressed with a 6S run.

Power wasn't awesome, but fairly decent.

Temps were well in hand up to the 5 minute mark. The 10 minute mark found the motor warming up, almost too warm for the finger touch test.

To most people, this isn't pushing motor temps. But to me, if it gets THAT hot, alot of power is being lost to generate that heat.

In the ESC settings, I found motor timing set at low.

So 2 problems:

This setup is undergeared and the timing is too low.

I'll correct these things and give it another go. :yes:

Hmmm.... IMO 6S 1300Kv 40mph in a 10lbs (or more) Erevo isn't undergeared at all...
We tested this motor in 1:8 buggies, geared for 40mph, and it's heating very fast compared to other standard motor, so it's not a surprise if it heats in your Monster Truck. Gearing up will probably fried it, watch your temps man, and buy a temp probe!
NuZ.

Average, like you said buggies and truggies put more power to the ground, but they put it smoothly, without amp spikes. Don't forget that Buggies and truggies are lighter than MTs too.
When you go full throttle with a MT from 0 doing a standing backflip, you generate a strong current spike, where a buggy or a truggy will accelerate slowly due to the center diff making the front wheels spinning free without grip, so without power. So the spikes are attenuated with a CD...
For theses reasons, and considerating the weight difference I am not sure you are right.

18/52 is geared for 32mph on 6S in the E Revo.

With 4 pole motors, it has been my experience, that best performance comes when you put the right amount of load on them.

Undergeared, the motor just tops out.

To take advantage of the added torque a 4 pole makes, higher gearing is required.

I'm really looking for performance comparable to the Medusa Motors that I've played with.

I had a Medusa 36-60-1500kv in this truck geared 22/40 on 4S and it did GREAT! :yes:

However, there could be a big efficiency difference between the two.

Motors are not all created equal, that's for sure.