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suicideneil 10.12.2010 07:09 PM

Interesting lipo testing article...
 
http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/showthread.php?t=273524

Hands up who can ID the blurred labels...

slimthelineman 10.12.2010 07:21 PM

No big suprise there! Max amps were the worst packs I ever owned. Worked better as fireworks than as a lipo. I little dissapointed in the thunderpower packs but not really suprised the 3s packs I have aren't the greatest and kinda always felt 40c was a bit bold. Would like to see the same style test done on larger cells though. Kinda funny that the elite cells look alot like turnigy cells.....

sikeston34m 10.12.2010 07:28 PM

"Raises Hand"

This just confirms what most of us already know.

I was looking down through the thread for someone to say:

J*&%^ here from M*^&^%$.

"If anyone here wants to give me a call, I'll discuss any issues personally. Oh and BTW, we don't warranty packs that have been taken apart. But we will sell you another one!"

:rofl:

JERRY2KONE 10.12.2010 07:55 PM

Good post
 
GOOD POST, GOOD READ, AND GOOD REVEAL. I not only read through it and found it very interesting and revealing, but I copied the info and sent it to brand P. I found that identifying brand P to be quite easy myself. Who knows what kind of response I may receive, but I thought it would be interesting to see how they reply. I sent it with a respectful inquisitive note asking them for their comments. I do not lean one way or another personally, but getting info from the horses mouth is always interesting. I purchased Lipos from brand P when they first started selling them, and have not purchased any since. I personally find it sad when any company posts up claims on their products not only without any kind of backing, but just has to know that the product is sub par to what it is being advertised. I believe the comparison in this post most revealing, and seems to be on the up & up. Thank you for sharing it with us.

suicideneil 10.12.2010 08:10 PM

The thing that made me smile, sort of, was when the guy said his dealings with brand P had been less than pleasant, or words to that effect. Having an attitude with other company reps/ owners because you dont like them posting the truth or being honest about the quality of lipos they've used and tested is just not on really- that good old arrogance and ignorance we've come to know & love from brand P over the years. Whats even funnier is that brand P reps have applied pressure on the mods of the traxxas forum to try and shut me up- found that out a little while back; brand P doesnt take too kindly to criticism, yet does nothing to help itself by refusing to deal with people's questions or concerns surrounding their products. Ugh...

slimthelineman 10.12.2010 08:14 PM

Just on a side note saw a post on the traxxas forum from brand p saying they will be selling the fma 1000w charger, and a 47amp power supply... They want like 150 bucks for the power supply...... Wonder where they are getting the ideas from..

reno911 10.12.2010 08:19 PM

Good read, wish a consumer with the resources would perform a larger scale test using most of the popular brands.

I guess I will come out and say it, scratch that last bit I said. I wish someone would test a Zippy pack against a MaxAmps pack.

Then the world will know!

Bondonutz 10.12.2010 08:30 PM

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Thanks for posting Neil, it was a very interesting read even tho the outcome wasn't exactly news.

I have a very poor attitude about brand "P" and dont wish to get in trouble so I'm just gonna laugh quietly to myself.

BrianG 10.12.2010 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slimthelineman (Post 383610)
Just on a side note saw a post on the traxxas forum from brand p saying they will be selling the fma 1000w charger, and a 47amp power supply... They want like 150 bucks for the power supply...... Wonder where they are getting the ideas from..

Hmm. I wonder if that 47A power supply is a certain 12v model? And if so, I wonder if they will tell their customers that they won't be able to get the full 1000w potential from that charger unless the voltage is around 24v?

JERRY2KONE 10.12.2010 10:23 PM

Read
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 383633)
So were the Elite tested as a single 1S cell and the other Brand P and X tested as 2S packs?

If you read through the entire report all were tested as single cells at 20C in order to keep things fair, and equal in nature. He states that testing single cells gives a more accurate reference for comparison purposes. His further testing of their cells were done later at 35C to show how well the Elite cells hold up to its rating.

simplechamp 10.12.2010 10:25 PM

Yeah I skimmed past that, that's why I deleted my post.

slimthelineman 10.12.2010 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 383617)
Hmm. I wonder if that 47A power supply is a certain 12v model? And if so, I wonder if they will tell their customers that they won't be able to get the full 1000w potential from that charger unless the voltage is around 24v?

iirc it was a 24v model, already stacked in series. but still prices are typical ma:lol:

rootar 10.13.2010 02:16 AM

i want to see the smaller hyperion cells tested agianist his.

brian015 10.13.2010 08:42 AM

Good link. Except my wife wondered what I was doing when she noticed Chris the Battery Man's avatar.

:lol:

mistercrash 10.13.2010 08:56 AM

I don't know how the Competition Electronics Turbo 35 GFX LIPO READY works but why didn't they test each cells of each brand at their claimed C rating also? I understand that they wanted the test to be equal for each brand to be able to compare their performance but I would have liked to also see tests showing how one 35C cell performs under a 35C load. And how a 45C cell performs under a 45C load and so on...

Here's a quote:
''It is our opinion that when giving a lipo a C rating it must maintain a minimum usable voltage to qualify for that rating. (i.e.: if someone calls a pack a 35C pack then it should, at 35c, have at least a 3.4-3.6v average discharge voltage for each cell in the pack)''

After saying that, I would like to see a graph of one of their 35C rated cell with a 35C load on it. They say that they will start to include graphs of their cells again so I applaude that. I would have liked to see that graph right now during these tests they made.


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