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Pdelcast 06.25.2011 07:48 AM
ROAR bans 4 pole motors from 550 4x4 SCT racing
 
Imagine that...

http://www.roarracing.com/?p=1224

asheck 06.25.2011 08:20 AM
Nevermind, it's not as bad as it sounds. 4-pole motors are allowed, just not 550 4-pole.

DwightSchrute 06.25.2011 08:47 AM
that's crazy stupid!! now that everyone and their brother is working on a more effecient 550, they ban it? WTF?!

bdebde 06.25.2011 02:10 PM
Patrick, where does your 1410 fall in this (540? 550?).

E-Revonut 06.25.2011 02:32 PM
1410 is 540 size

Swindez85 06.25.2011 03:12 PM
Ok so I know they are trying to keep the playing field level for everyone but how can the brushless motor industry make advancements when roar keeps making rules that castrates success?

I believe its time for castle to introduce some sensored motors to its lineup that waay outperform the orange stuff. Knowing roar though they would find some reason to render a sensored 1406-1410 illegal to race with. Especially if they were strides better than anything that novak had on the market along with the others that are roar legal.

outlaw 06.26.2011 06:48 AM
Looks like they force you guys to go back to 2 pol crap

Quote:
External shaft diameter may be either 0.125 inches (3.175mm) or 0.197 inches (5mm). Only one piece, two pole Neodymium sintered, or Ferrite (Ceramic) magnetic rotors are permitted. The magnet length shall be a minimum of 39.0mm and maximum of 46.0mm not including any nonmagnetic balancing material. The magnet outside diameter shall have a minimum of 12.3mm and a maximum of 14.0mm, no tolerance, for the entire length of the magnet.

ta_man 06.26.2011 08:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 408994)
Looks like they force you guys to go back to 2 pol crap
But only for 550s.

The 540 4 pole motors appear to be plenty powerful for racing application (note: racing, not bashing). since ROAR limits batteries to 2S for racing (note: racing, not bashing) the lower KV of a 550 4-pole motor (like the Castle 1415) make them less than useful for racing (note: racing, not bashing).

So in the end, this doesn't really making any difference for racing.

Since none of you guys enter ROAR races, why do you care?

And BTW, it is not "back to 2 pole crap", since there were no 4 pole 550 motors sutable for ROAR racing (note: racing, not bashing) anyway.

Pdelcast 06.26.2011 06:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 408998)
But only for 550s.

The 540 4 pole motors appear to be plenty powerful for racing application (note: racing, not bashing). since ROAR limits batteries to 2S for racing (note: racing, not bashing) the lower KV of a 550 4-pole motor (like the Castle 1415) make them less than useful for racing (note: racing, not bashing).

So in the end, this doesn't really making any difference for racing.

Since none of you guys enter ROAR races, why do you care?

And BTW, it is not "back to 2 pole crap", since there were no 4 pole 550 motors sutable for ROAR racing (note: racing, not bashing) anyway.
But.... you didn't consider the 1415 / .5Y motor -- 4800Kv.

ta_man 06.26.2011 07:42 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 409019)
But.... you didn't consider the 1415 / .5Y motor -- 4800Kv.
Do you sell those yet? I only see the 2400KV 1415 listed on the web site.

Pdelcast 06.26.2011 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 409022)
Do you sell those yet? I only see the 2400KV 1415 listed on the web site.
Not yet -- but they are in Beta testing

Arct1k 06.26.2011 08:47 PM
Who are these mysterious beta testers? Poor Thomas I feel for him having to test all these new creations.

ta_man 06.26.2011 10:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 409025)
Not yet -- but they are in Beta testing
Well, considering the limited number of people that race in actual ROAR events, you should still have a big market for it.

Erevocanuck 06.26.2011 11:15 PM
Steve Pond (r.o.a.r president) has been posted on RCCA forum on the rule changes.

RCzone 4 pole motor change

Pdelcast 06.27.2011 12:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ta_man (Post 409031)
Well, considering the limited number of people that race in actual ROAR events, you should still have a big market for it.
Not really a big deal, agreed.

But we'll have a ROAR legal 550 size motor in a few weeks.

Thanx!


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