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agw 11.20.2012 08:50 AM

CF G2 with low CoG
 
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After six years I decided to start tinkering with my old CF G2 Gorilla Maxx chassis.
I really never liked how the Plettenberg Bigmaxximum sat hi and off center so I decided to go the Center Diff way after much reading on this forum and bugging the hell out of Mike :whistle:

In the end after having spent hours designing a weak mount, Mike convinced me that his universal mount was the best (easiest and most effective) way to go.

Here is the (almost) final product geared way too high but hey, if ain't broke...break it.

tinuss 11.20.2012 06:26 PM

Looks good and a Sexy motor !!!!

Ralf

agw 11.20.2012 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tinuss (Post 424679)
Looks good and a Sexy motor !!!!

Ralf

As they say...age makes you sexy ( I think I just made that up for my own benefit).

Here are some more pics of the (almost) final product...

PS. The gearing is WAY too high, I barely hit 8,000 RMP and look at the ballooning.

agw 11.20.2012 10:08 PM

Gearing Calculation
 
As I said earlier....way too high... 102 MPH???

Differential Ratio: 2.85
Transmission Ratio: 1
Other Ratio: 1
Spur Tooth Count: 42
Pinion Tooth Count: 15
Total Voltage: 19.50
Motor KV: 2600
Tire Diameter (inches): 4.7
Tire Ballooning (inches): .35
Motor Current Draw: 100
Motor Coil Resistance: 0
Spur/Pinion Ratio: 2.8 : 1
Total Ratio: 7.98 : 1
Tire Circumference (inches): 16.96 inches (430.9 mm)
Rollout: 2.13:1
Total Motor Speed: 50700 RPM
Vehicle Speed: 102.07 mph (163.95 km/h)
Effective KV Value: 2600
KT constant: 0.52 oz-in/A
Motor Torque: 0.27 ft-lbs
Final Torque: 2.16 ft-lbs
Final Power: 1950 watts (2.6 HP)

Dafni 11.21.2012 07:43 AM

Nice to see people are still using that setup! I remember when that idea was the latest and greatest.

Maybe you should instal truggy diffs to get the ratio up? Or just run that motor on 4S??

Daf

agw 11.21.2012 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dafni (Post 424694)
Nice to see people are still using that setup! I remember when that idea was the latest and greatest.

Maybe you should instal truggy diffs to get the ratio up? Or just run that motor on 4S??

Daf

Good point but at this point I think I'm going to strap a GPS to it and see how fast it really goes until something explodes! Then try again...

I'm looking for smaller wheels/tires for a straight run on asphalt; does anyone have any suggestions?

RC-Monster Mike 11.21.2012 10:30 AM

if you have 17mm hexes, you can use wheels/tires intyended for the Inferno Gt and similar buggy-based road cars.

Nice to see your still kickin' Dafni!

agw 11.21.2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RC-Monster Mike (Post 424697)
if you have 17mm hexes, you can use wheels/tires intyended for the Inferno Gt and similar buggy-based road cars.

Nice to see your still kickin' Dafni!

Good idea Mike. Thanks for the tip.

Klausen 11.21.2012 02:24 PM

Looking great. Cool truck with a cool setup.

agw 11.21.2012 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Klausen (Post 424705)
Looking great. Cool truck with a cool setup.

I like the prolines road rage but they are too wide.
Better going with something like this as Mike suggested:
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ith-Inner-GT-2

BTW I took the truck for a test run and there was a little cogging but barely perceptible. Went up to 11,000 RPM which was about 23 MPH and felt crazy fast but I loved how the front was lifting without loosing contact with the ground.

_paralyzed_ 11.21.2012 09:57 PM

Good looking truck.:yes: Is that a schulze controller?

agw 11.22.2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 424711)
Good looking truck.:yes: Is that a schulze controller?

Yes it is. 18.97KW with a BEC attached on top. Somhow I have not yet been able to "fry" it...I'll keep trying :diablo:

Dafni 11.22.2012 09:55 AM

With a setup like yours I think the Schulze is doomed.

Stay away from the roadrage tires on a highspeed setup like this. Pizzacutters was the word back then.
I would go the way Mike suggested, 17mm hex and buggy wheels/tires.

Yo, cheers Mike, good to know we're still here.

agw 11.23.2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dafni (Post 424723)
With a setup like yours I think the Schulze is doomed.

Stay away from the roadrage tires on a highspeed setup like this. Pizzacutters was the word back then.
I would go the way Mike suggested, 17mm hex and buggy wheels/tires.

Yo, cheers Mike, good to know we're still here.

Since today I was able to take the truck out for a spin (video to be posted after edit) I was also able to un-glue the front tires after a couple of wheelies...:party:

The wheels I have now are all 14mm hex, could I just get a 17mm hex wheel with the appropriate pin or would that not work for some reasons?
I believe the CVD I have are MIP (old original not spline).

Klausen 11.24.2012 01:36 AM

I run Traxxas 17mm hex's with Proline Badland, on the original shiny 2,5 MIP cvd's. I had to mod the Traxxas hex's a bit by drilling from the backside, to make them go far enough into the cvd.

http://billeder.rcgalleri.dk/galleri...llamaxx-e-maxx


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