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Dragonfueled 04.29.2013 11:39 PM

Mmm2 slow take off. No full throttle starts
 
Hi guys just got my mmm2 to replace my original mmm. It's in a revo running 4s with a 2200 neu. My problem is when I punch the throttle it feels slow to take off. Like punch control is on. After a few feet it builds up and takes off.
I swapped back to my old monster and it rips as soon as I hit the throttle.
I remember my old monster did it one time when I updated the firmware so I went back to 1.24 and it had punch again but obviously I can't do that with a brand new mmm2.
Punch control is disabled and I'm using 65c packs so it can't be a lack of battery. Any ideas it won't even wheelie it just take off like I'm at a 1/4 throttle and then kicks in as its going. Feels like my motor has no torque to get the truck going

Arct1k 04.30.2013 08:28 AM

Sounds like punch control or current limiting is somehow engaged.

Any other firmware vers avail for mmm2?

Dragonfueled 04.30.2013 10:01 AM

That's exactly what it feels like but I have it all disabled. Is this the way they are set up now to be easier on the esc on takeoff I wonder? Like I said old esc everything the same takes off like a rocket.
No other firmware that I see listed in castle link.

Dragonfueled 04.30.2013 12:42 PM

Just called castle and they said they never really heard of it. I'm gonna do the kv test for the torque control and then turn it off. Maybe it doesn't know the kv so it's limiting current? I don't know. I hate having issues nobody ever heard of lol. It has to be something with newer firmware cause my old mmm does the same thing if I update the firmware.

Dragonfueled 04.30.2013 07:17 PM

Did some more testing. When I punch the throttle the green and yellow led light up till the rpms come up then the yellow goes out and I get full power. If I maintain some rpm and punch it I no longer get the yellow light and I get full power rite away, let the rpms drop to much and when you nail it the yellow light comes on with the green one again till the rpms come up again. Any ideas?

_paralyzed_ 05.01.2013 10:27 AM

Bad controller, send it in

Dragonfueled 05.01.2013 06:47 PM

It's firmware related. If I update to 1.39 firmware on my old monsters it does the exact same thing. Once I go back to 1.32 it's fixed. You guys don't have this problem with 1.39 firmware in your monsters? If you give it throttle and the yellow light stays lit with the green one for two seconds you have the same issue.

Overdriven 05.03.2013 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonfueled (Post 426604)
Did some more testing. When I punch the throttle the green and yellow led light up till the rpms come up then the yellow goes out and I get full power. If I maintain some rpm and punch it I no longer get the yellow light and I get full power rite away, let the rpms drop to much and when you nail it the yellow light comes on with the green one again till the rpms come up again. Any ideas?

That sounds like its staying in its "startup" algorithm too long. Firmware might be to blame, maybe try reinstalling the firmware if you can. The other possibility is the firmware is fine and the esc is staying in "startup" algorithm too long because it doesn't detect the emf feedback from the motor the way it should. If that's the case it's hardware related and needs to go back to Castle.

Dragonfueled 05.03.2013 08:58 AM

I sent castle a vid and they said the are aware of a few people with this problem but don't currently know the cause of it. It's in the firmware but I can't revert to older firmware cause the monster2 only has 1.39. I went back to 1.32 on my old ones and they are perfect. Oh well waiting on new firmware :)

outlaw 05.04.2013 04:50 PM

On the Monster 1 anything newer than Firmware 1.24 does not have really nice startup parameters

goes from "odd" to "total fail"

I guess, the "good old" Version 1.24 for the Monster 1 does not work on the Monster 2

On the Monster 2 the 1.32 is currently the best choice, but not as nice as the 1.24 on the Monster 1

Same does apply to the Mamba Max Pro
Best Firmware here is 1.26

I had a talk with Richard this year on the Toy Fair in Nuernberg
regarding this issue and some other minor things on the latest firmware versions.

I offered some intensive firmware testing for Castle, but no reply yet.... :whistle:

Dragonfueled 05.04.2013 08:13 PM

I wish I could force some older firmware onto my monster 2 lol. Yeah 1.24 is nice . My monster2 only had 1.39 on it so I can't go back.

Arct1k 05.05.2013 09:31 AM

The days of being able to do things like that died when they encrypted the settings db.

Pdelcast 05.10.2013 11:02 PM

There should be a patch fixing this issue later this week.

Thanx!

Patrick

outlaw 05.13.2013 02:02 PM

Thanx Patrick...

Dragonfueled 05.19.2013 06:23 PM

Awesome! By patch you mean firmware update?


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