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VintageMA 09.07.2007 09:39 AM

MGM ESC and USBCOM+ ?
 
Has anyone here used the USBCOM+ connector and software (http://mgm-compro.com/index.php?tid=...terface-usbcom) with their MGM ESC?

I have the 16024 and it's a real pain to program via the throttle stick (more than twice as many options and possible settings as the Castle ESCs).

Was wondering if this software was as easy and intuitive to use as the castle software.

jnev 09.07.2007 10:08 AM

Mike is actually planning on selling the software in the store. I know there is one or two people (maybe more) that tried the software. Can't remember any of their user names though...

gixxer 09.07.2007 10:36 AM

mike has them listed now but I have not tried them yet. http://www.rc-monster.com/brushlesscontrollers.php?pg=2

bdebde 09.07.2007 10:49 AM

I just got the usb com+ last night and set up my 16024. The software is easy to use. I am bummed that there is no setting for cut off voltage though (wanted 3.2 volts per cell).

VintageMA 09.07.2007 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bdebde (Post 117086)
I just got the usb com+ last night and set up my 16024. The software is easy to use. I am bummed that there is no setting for cut off voltage though (wanted 3.2 volts per cell).

When you say cut-off do you mean being able to set a specific cell voltage in addition to just being able to tell the controller if you are hooking up 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc number of lipos?

gixxer 09.07.2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bdebde (Post 117086)
I just got the usb com+ last night and set up my 16024. The software is easy to use. I am bummed that there is no setting for cut off voltage though (wanted 3.2 volts per cell).

that sucks. I thought it would let you set it higher with the software. Thats one of the main reasons I wanted to try it. Well I also want to see what kind of amps the setup is pulling.

bdebde 09.07.2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VintageMA (Post 117087)
When you say cut-off do you mean being able to set a specific cell voltage in addition to just being able to tell the controller if you are hooking up 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 etc number of lipos?


That is correct, you can choose the number of lipos, but no cut off voltage. However, I have the 16024 which is still the expert model (expert+ due october), whereas the 16018 and 22418 are expert+ models, may be a difference there, IDK.

Sower 09.07.2007 03:53 PM

I'm getting the new 160 from Mike . . . I hope that allows custom settings for cutoff. I guess I'll find out when I hook up the software. I can't wait!:yipi:

jhautz 09.07.2007 05:15 PM

The Expert+ doesnt allow adjustment for the cutoff voltage either. Just settings for cell count.


Does anyone know what the actual cut off voltage per cell is for the MGMs? I assumed it was 3.0V/cell, but it seems to be a bit higher than that. I run some lower end lipos for bashing and it seems to be very sensitive on the LVC. I wasnt sure what was happening, but under hard acceleration it want to trip the LVC. When I go back to neutral it resets and I can keep running so it appears to be the LVC. But when I checked it with an eagletree data recorder its not hitting the 3.0V/cell mark and it is triggering the lvc. It seems to be tripping at around 3.15v/cell. Id really like to be able to adjust the cut off voltage as well, but I dont think its possible. Setting the ESC to race mode eliminates the cutting out problem, but also disables the LVC.:grrrrrr: I can also eliminate the problem by setting the motor spool up timing higher, but that limits the acceleration, and therefore reducing the current draw. Also, my high end lipos have no problem and they never dip



Just wondering if anyone else has seen this same thing.



BTW: I see the same thing on both of my MGMs (16016 -new one and 16024 - old one)

crazyjr 09.07.2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gixxer (Post 117096)
that sucks. I thought it would let you set it higher with the software. Thats one of the main reasons I wanted to try it. Well I also want to see what kind of amps the setup is pulling.

According to my MGM instructions sheets, the programmking card does offer diffeerent options for per cell cut off


Quote:

by Jhautz
Does anyone know what the actual cut off voltage per cell is for the MGMs?
It looks like default is 3vper cell, but its limiting all the way from 3.8v down to the cutoff. It seems to calculate the voltage and use to help batteries run better without dipping too far too soon. this is according to the literature i got

jhautz 09.07.2007 10:41 PM

Hmmm.... Sounds like I need to get the programing card too then. Dang. If its adjustable why cant they just make it available from all of the programaing options. Thats stupid that they only make it available from one of the 3 programaing options. (and it figures its the one I dont have.):slap:

bdebde 09.07.2007 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 117195)
Hmmm.... Sounds like I need to get the programing card too then. Dang. If its adjustable why cant they just make it available from all of the programaing options. Thats stupid that they only make it available from one of the 3 programaing options. (and it figures its the one I dont have.):slap:

Yeah same here, and Mike doesn't have them either.

MetalMan 09.08.2007 12:26 AM

The older MGMs (like from a year ago) had a cutoff of about 3.2v, that I found from my testing. If my memory serves correctly, I found this by using my ICE set to motor break-in mode (essentially a variable-voltage power supply), and set the cutoff to hard cutoff on 2s Lipo. Then I decreased the voltage until the MGM cut the motor, at which point I was at 6.4v.

crazyjr 09.08.2007 01:10 AM

its possible, I'm just guessing. I have not put it to the test, My MGM just got zapped. The 2250 i was running shorted a phase and i didn't catch it before it shorted the MGM.

jhautz 09.08.2007 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crazyjr (Post 117220)
its possible, I'm just guessing. I have not put it to the test, My MGM just got zapped. The 2250 i was running shorted a phase and i didn't catch it before it shorted the MGM.


That sucks:oops:

Let us know how the service is.


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