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austinmaxx 01.22.2008 06:11 PM

Whats with the Dual Brushless Motor Stuff?
 
Not to start a rant or anything, but I could not imagine running dual Neu's, I have more power than I need. Why would someone use two motors its heavier, less efficient etc... and one Neu has way plenty of power...other than the cool factor I don't see any gains at all...I see the traxxas fourm going crazy for dual brushless motors stuff...weird

BrianG 01.22.2008 06:17 PM

Yeah, I've seen that too and wonder the same thing. Maybe it's because they HAVE to use Traxxas stuff with their Traxxas vehicles and really want to use the Velineon (sp?) system. Running dual Neus is just plain silly unless you like 5-8 minute runtimes. It's gotta be the coolness factor...

_paralyzed_ 01.22.2008 06:17 PM

because you can get two velineon SYSTEMS for the price of a neu motor, thats why, no soldering, plug and play, looks cool need more reasons?

neweuser 01.22.2008 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 143156)
because you can get two velineon SYSTEMS for the price of a neu motor, thats why, no soldering, plug and play, looks cool need more reasons?

Ok, and if one system goes down, then how much will you spend then?:lol:

austinmaxx 01.22.2008 06:25 PM

Your right its easier plug and play off the shelf at local hobby shop, I forget also there is younger group over there that may not have the skills for building a system...The Neu is quality though and will last forever and stay cooler...

_paralyzed_ 01.22.2008 06:25 PM

that's what i'm curious about, but nobody has had a problem running duals yet

neweuser 01.22.2008 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 143161)
that's what i'm curious about, but nobody has had a problem running duals yet

Or at least none that thye would tell you about. Just like when the HV came out. Everyone said it's the best. But no one mentioned the heat problems they had and how low geared they had to run them. Not to mention the rotor probs at first.

_paralyzed_ 01.22.2008 06:34 PM

good point, we all know the dual setup is inferior, i guess that;s what the traxxas forums are for:lol:

neweuser 01.22.2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 143166)
good point, we all know the dual setup is inferior, i guess that;s what the traxxas forums are for:lol:

Not that their inferior, just lower quality IMO. Most will learn that you get what you pay for in BL, the higher it is, more than likely the quality may be better is all.

Arct1k 01.22.2008 06:43 PM

I'm waiting to try Dual 9XL's MM on Dual 4s on my e-revo..

I now have the pinions (Dual 22 on 65T Steel RR, ESC's and 9XLs) - It is just that I superglued the screws on my single motor mount into the transmission case as they kept getting loose! DOH!

Now I have to buy new gearbox halves and dremmel them out or get a single speed conversion... THUD!

It is really just to see if I can get a double standing backflip :) It has so much torque anyway....

t-maxxracer32 01.22.2008 07:01 PM

i think a big part of it like paralyzed said.

also if one person does it everyone else has to try it.

the bandwaggon effect is coming to play with RC vehicles.

dafni did an xt8 conversion then tallyram then me clod sower and more im sure all did it at the exact same time basically.

look at the crt .5s. one person did it and BAM we have over 15-20 diff conversions im sure.

people follow trends and dual BL motors i guess is coming up to be a new popular trend.

BrianG 01.22.2008 07:08 PM

I would think that unless the ESC's are linked, they wouldn't run totally in sync and you'll get more power, but not double like you'd expect. Besides, most dual BL setups I've seen are a wiring nightmare aesthetic-wise.

Sure, dual motors looks cool, but I'll take one good system over two "adequate" systems anyday. It's just doubling the chances of something going wrong (like running RAID 0).

MTBikerTim 01.22.2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by t-maxxracer32 (Post 143180)
i think a big part of it like paralyzed said.

also if one person does it everyone else has to try it.

the bandwaggon effect is coming to play with RC vehicles.

dafni did an xt8 conversion then tallyram then me clod sower and more im sure all did it at the exact same time basically.

look at the crt .5s. one person did it and BAM we have over 15-20 diff conversions im sure.

people follow trends and dual BL motors i guess is coming up to be a new popular trend.

The bandwagon effect is helped by support too. For example mikes chassis (who wouldn't want to do a conversion with that).

suicideneil 01.22.2008 07:48 PM

What about 2 good systems over one good system?

http://www.juggernaut23.com/Jugg%20D...nny%200000.JPG

http://www.clodtalk.com/viewtopic.ph...st=0&sk=t&sd=a

Concidering a single BigMaxximum can make a large truck do multiple backflips anywhere in the throttle range almost, I kinda wince at the thought of what 2 could do.

Anyway, I like the idea of using two small but good motors, such as the lehner basics (cool running and ample torque), but using a couple 'feigaos' on 3s sounds abit half-assed really. I'd like to see traxxas come out with something to rival the MMM, then all those kids on the traxxas forums would ditch their V-twins in a heartbeat, such is human nature. Im still holding out for the new Novak system- 6 months isnt that long.... is it?

jhautz 01.22.2008 07:59 PM

They are gonna ditch the v-twin as soon as the MMM is released anyway. Like everyone already stated.... 2 is NOT better than one in this case. The MMM is going to send this thing we all do and everyone thinks we are crazy into being very close to mainstreem. When they can walk into the LHS and buy a system off the shelf for $300 and it will blow away any nitro setup out there, it wont take long for the revolution to start IMO


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