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other than bigboi146's attitude i totally understand and agree to what you all are saying. But i still think we have a collective potential to build something that will work. i guess i just have personal feeling because in the real car world if someone can't build a part worth a damn... guess what... you build it yourself. For years i used a software program that basically piggy backed onto the stock ecu of the car ( (for all who have no idea why im talking about that i have a turbo crx that makes 427hp on pump gas) and basically after fighting with the developers because there were too many short comings for too much money a group of guys finally sat down an worked out a similar system but the perforamace far exceeded that of the other manufactures product. the beauty of it was it was done all with an open source mentality. once it was finished people only purchased via donation to further see product development. it did two things... one the part that people desired was finally available. and two it forced the more corporate industry to realize they too need to get on the ball simply to outdue these so called backyard racers.

ya i understand we may be the ones pushing the envelope in what we do. but it gets old having to make up for incompetence's of a product that cost you hard earned money.

in the end i just hoped that i could help fire someone up to help build a product that is really good and does what it claims it will do. guess time will tell