ya, Id prob be happy with a hvmaxx....but they are 250ish and for that i heep thinking should I want for the mamba maxx. Id get a used one perhaps, thats an option but there arent that many out there, thats all.

hvmaxx is better then buying a new dually esc and hotter motors and id prob get longer run times too.

so either way it seems like the recommendation is to get more low end, and lower the overall high RPM output.....thall give me more run time and more response off the line, that I can handle :)

Im still sure the hvmaxx is respectable...just got crazy when I got it and say you all posting these high end BLs so I was going nuts :)