Sammus, I was not blaming anybody for anything I was simply making a comment...I'm sure patric appreciates your brown nosing but I don't think my post warrents lynching so please put away your pitch fork. And the point of this thread is to express my concerns about a certin esc and to see if anyone else has ran into any other duds. You are right about one thing though my boat is not here yet but that doesnt mean I dont own one or that a don't know what I'm talking about...I have done plenty of research. By the way while we are on the subject was their a point to your post? Or are you just the forum police?