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TexasSP · 07:41 PM

Sorry PBO but it has been a busy weekend and I wasn't trying to ignore you.

The short answer is freewill and choice. If you go back to Genesis, everything was perfect, no pain, no suffering, no sin. Adam and Eve (don't know if the names are really relevant for anything other than having a name but it's who is used) were given everything and only one rule. Stay away from the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil (the apple as many call it). I think the fruit in and of itself is irrelevant as anything but a metaphor although I believe the fruit was real but used by God as a test. Man was tempted and gave in rapidly to it. Adam and Eve disobeyed God's one rule and there by was separated from him and evil introduced into the world. God told them this. At this point faith was necessary to have a relationship with God.

It's funny, many Christians even hold blame on Adam and Eve yet everyday they have the same choices, not to sin. Sin being defined as anything that separates you from God. Sin is a funny thing and while many like to focus on the sin of commission (sins you actively commit), most forget and/or ignore sins of omission. These being sins of things you could have done but refused. ie: helping someone in need and ignoring that need

In reality most of the suffering is caused by Man. I don't even think their needs to be a belief in God to see that this is true. God gave us freewill and choices and he doesn't control what these are.

I will also note that Jesus also focuses heavily on children and the lives of children all through out the Bible. In fact he states that anyone who causes a child to stumble (meaning a variety of things including abuse, molestation etc.) might as well just drown themselves.

The great thing too is that it is very clear that a when a child dies that there is no question that the child goes to Heaven as Jesus commits to taking care of all Children.

Of course this is why we are commanded over and over as Christians to assist the children, the poor and oppressed, along with those who cannot care for themselves.

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TexasSP Something, anything, nothing Offline Posts: 2,747 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX	09.20.2009, 07:40 PM Sorry PBO but it has been a busy weekend and I wasn't trying to ignore you. The short answer is freewill and choice. If you go back to Genesis, everything was perfect, no pain, no suffering, no sin. Adam and Eve (don't know if the names are really relevant for anything other than having a name but it's who is used) were given everything and only one rule. Stay away from the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil (the apple as many call it). I think the fruit in and of itself is irrelevant as anything but a metaphor although I believe the fruit was real but used by God as a test. Man was tempted and gave in rapidly to it. Adam and Eve disobeyed God's one rule and there by was separated from him and evil introduced into the world. God told them this. At this point faith was necessary to have a relationship with God. It's funny, many Christians even hold blame on Adam and Eve yet everyday they have the same choices, not to sin. Sin being defined as anything that separates you from God. Sin is a funny thing and while many like to focus on the sin of commission (sins you actively commit), most forget and/or ignore sins of omission. These being sins of things you could have done but refused. ie: helping someone in need and ignoring that need In reality most of the suffering is caused by Man. I don't even think their needs to be a belief in God to see that this is true. God gave us freewill and choices and he doesn't control what these are. I will also note that Jesus also focuses heavily on children and the lives of children all through out the Bible. In fact he states that anyone who causes a child to stumble (meaning a variety of things including abuse, molestation etc.) might as well just drown themselves. The great thing too is that it is very clear that a when a child dies that there is no question that the child goes to Heaven as Jesus commits to taking care of all Children. Of course this is why we are commanded over and over as Christians to assist the children, the poor and oppressed, along with those who cannot care for themselves. www.cubicle101.com A friends comic strip website. Last edited by TexasSP; 09.20.2009 at 07:41 PM.