[lincpimp]

I have a toby, very special mix or american eskimo and poodle/mutt. He is super smart, so mouch so that he knows when he has done something wrong and will usually punish himself. I do agree that pack leadership skills are a must, and included being your dog's buddy as well as being his master. Dogs are just like 2yr old kids, they watch you and they do pay attention.

As for toby he only bit me once, and it was becasue I was being a bit forceful with my scolding and scared him (I am only 5-10 and 250lbs, but I can be very intimidating when I am pissed, red eyes and steeming ears, plus lots of broken stuff) so I got him cornered and the lightning quick prick that he is bit me in the hand. He knew what he did immediately and tried to "apologize" the onl yway he can, be submissive by lying on his back. More my fault than his, he is only a dog.

Best of luck with the training, I think you will be successful. I would observe the "don't take any shit" method at all times.