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Originally Posted by redshift

Alright I should have been much clearer here "But drugs are not a requirement for daily life"- should have said drugs are not a requirement for being a 'productive member of society' (or tax slave- but that's another thread) OIL IS.

Once again OIL is not a requirement for daily life either. You are looking at this from a very closed minded perspective. The only real requirements for life on this planet are AIR, WATER, & SUN LIGHT. Anything & everything else are man made luxuries that we have created to make our lives simpler & easier for us. Oil is a bi-product of organic waste thousands of years old that man has turned into a comodity which make our lives faster and easier. That is the trick which pushers and dealers have used for many many years to get people hooked on drugs, cigerettes, booze, oil, and many many other organic & man made products. When somone finally comes up with the perfect electric passenger vehicle, and we begin to see more and more solar, wind, & hydro electricity the use of oil will deminish rapidly. At some point Fossil fuels will run out and man kind will have to rely on something else.

My point with Obama is merely the massive contradiction in his words vs. his action.

For example? And please make sure that it is something he directly has control over. If it is something that is controled by other entities of the administration or Gov powers, then he is a neutral puppet.

The rest, I still disagree with. A little late here, I'll pick up tomorrow.

I understand your point of view, but your still only looking at this from the consumer aspect. Try putting yourself in God's shoes looking at this from outside of our world. If you view this planet from afar you can see the flow of oil as it goes from the wells to the refineries, to the gas pumps, to our vehicles. No one is forcing anyone to buy fuel. We just do, because we have come to enjoy a life with FASTER transpertaion. We are spoiled by the very world we have created. So yes we are paying for our ancesters mistakes.

From the view above one would have to think "What in the hell are these creatures doing to themselves and their planet"? How stupid do you have to be and not know that you are killing the very atmosphere that sustains the life of your own spiecies.