Oh I'm not going for a bling factor at all. I broke 2 stock shafts, so I did some research. The Traxxas steel outputs and Street Sport axles are supposed to be weaker then the stock plastic ones. Everbody I've talked to with a Stampede or Rustler hate MIP CVD's, so I figured the HPI dogbones were my only option. I will give them another shot before I ditch them too.