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jhautz · 05:13 PM

I actually did some comparison testing with the Neu and the Lehner motors on a MM. And I am the one that fried the MM with the Neu motor cogging.

The Neu/MM in my experiments was not an acceptable combination to me. I had a fairly repeatable issue with the Neu motor severely cogging on the MM. Using the same set up, just swapping the Neu out for the Lehner motor I got much smoother operation. In my opinion the MM is still not as smooth as the Quark. I literally don’t think I can make the Quark cog with any setup.

The MM is a great little controller and has demonstrated capabilities well over the specs that CC has set for it. But IMO it’s too small of a controller for 1/8 truggies and monster trucks and you are better off going with something a little bigger. And if you are planning to run a Neu you should not choose the MM either. Also if you want to run 5s it’s really pushing the limits on the MM. This is just my opinion.

The Quark on the other hand does have some heat issues, and doesn’t perform that well on 6s even though it is speced for it. Most aren’t running 6s for racing though and on anything less than 6s it’s the smoothest ESC out there IMO. The other downside is the known heat issue with the Quarks. This is easily solved by mounting the ESC flat to an aluminum chassis or using some sort of heat sink on the back of the case.

If you are going with the MM the Lehner is the way to go IMO. At least until CC gets a solution out for the Neu. I actually did talk to a few people over at CC about this and I was told that the MM was optimized to squeeze every last bit out of the Mamaba motors and that other motors performance suffered because of this. But, the Lehner motors were very similar to the Mamba motors and they would have the most sucess.

Here is a little video that I made a while back comparing the start up of the MM with a Neu and Lehner motor when I was testing the MM.

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...rs12-18-06.flv

I was planning on using the MM in a 1/8 buggy and in the end wound up going to the Quark for the project for all of the reasons listed above. I still have the MM that I got replaced with the $50 no questions asked policy sitting in its box waiting for the day CC comes out with the software update. Then I'll give it anouther try.

BTW: I don’t really think that CC is that worried about the Neu fix and thats why its taking so long. They are selling and marketing this thing to be used in 1/10 stadium trucks and buggies and on road Cars, not 1/8 and Monster trucks. 99% of the MM users out there are using it in its intended application with the Mamba motors and having no issues. It’s just a few extremists like us that are searching for its limits.

EDIT: AA, to answer your question. If you are staying with the MM go with the Lehner motor. At this point its a much better combo. IMO

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jhautz RC-Monster Mod Offline Posts: 4,217 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Chicago, IL	02.15.2007, 05:11 PM I actually did some comparison testing with the Neu and the Lehner motors on a MM. And I am the one that fried the MM with the Neu motor cogging. The Neu/MM in my experiments was not an acceptable combination to me. I had a fairly repeatable issue with the Neu motor severely cogging on the MM. Using the same set up, just swapping the Neu out for the Lehner motor I got much smoother operation. In my opinion the MM is still not as smooth as the Quark. I literally don’t think I can make the Quark cog with any setup. The MM is a great little controller and has demonstrated capabilities well over the specs that CC has set for it. But IMO it’s too small of a controller for 1/8 truggies and monster trucks and you are better off going with something a little bigger. And if you are planning to run a Neu you should not choose the MM either. Also if you want to run 5s it’s really pushing the limits on the MM. This is just my opinion. The Quark on the other hand does have some heat issues, and doesn’t perform that well on 6s even though it is speced for it. Most aren’t running 6s for racing though and on anything less than 6s it’s the smoothest ESC out there IMO. The other downside is the known heat issue with the Quarks. This is easily solved by mounting the ESC flat to an aluminum chassis or using some sort of heat sink on the back of the case. If you are going with the MM the Lehner is the way to go IMO. At least until CC gets a solution out for the Neu. I actually did talk to a few people over at CC about this and I was told that the MM was optimized to squeeze every last bit out of the Mamaba motors and that other motors performance suffered because of this. But, the Lehner motors were very similar to the Mamba motors and they would have the most sucess. Here is a little video that I made a while back comparing the start up of the MM with a Neu and Lehner motor when I was testing the MM. http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...rs12-18-06.flv I was planning on using the MM in a 1/8 buggy and in the end wound up going to the Quark for the project for all of the reasons listed above. I still have the MM that I got replaced with the $50 no questions asked policy sitting in its box waiting for the day CC comes out with the software update. Then I'll give it anouther try. BTW: I don’t really think that CC is that worried about the Neu fix and thats why its taking so long. They are selling and marketing this thing to be used in 1/10 stadium trucks and buggies and on road Cars, not 1/8 and Monster trucks. 99% of the MM users out there are using it in its intended application with the Mamba motors and having no issues. It’s just a few extremists like us that are searching for its limits. EDIT: AA, to answer your question. If you are staying with the MM go with the Lehner motor. At this point its a much better combo. IMO I can't decide if its more fun to make it... or break it... Silent...But Deadly Last edited by jhautz; 02.15.2007 at 05:13 PM.