Yusa buggy?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ayphotohosting
Opinions? Has anyone heard of these? Im looking to pick up a cheap 1/8 buggy to convert, and this thing is selling brand new for less than I was planning on spending on a used one. My knowledge of 1/8 buggies is slim at best, but this thing looks decent in the pictures. The wheels look the same as some Ive seen on a lot of kyosho buggies, is it maybe a copy of a kyosho design? Or better yet, a relabeled kyosho? (wishful thinking, a new inferno for $100 shipped). Any help would be appreciated.

[_paralyzed_]

buy it up and tell us how it works!

[jhautz]

I would pass on that thing. I have only bought 1 thing from that guy on Ebay. It was a set of mounted/glued wheels and tires and they were crap! I bought them for bashing use and withing 5 minutes of running doing nothing really crazy one of the wheels went rolling away. The hub in the center of the wheel completely cracked out. Upon looking at the others I found that another one was already starting to crack. I just pulled them off and pitched them in the trash.

I guess what did I expect for $15 set of 4 wheels/tires.

My suspicion is the buggy would be just as bad. Plus when it does break, where do you get the parts? 3 week mail order from china????

My advice would be, DON'T waste your $$$ on that thing. Just get a decent used brand name buggy, even if it costs more for the used brand name. In the long run you will be MUCH happier.

[lutach]

I also bought from the seller and they wouldn't have shipped my items if Ebay had suspended their account for false contact info (I guess they have the right contact info now). It took almost a month for my items to arrive.

[2FastSS4U]

Don't waste your time/money chances are its quality falls way short of anything you could even buy used.

[squeeforever]

I wouldn't even consider it...

[nativepaul]

Squee, after jiggling his boyboobs that energetically 24/7 for the last month shouldn't that kid in your avatar be reasonably slim by now? I gotta say I prefer your old avatar, this one just makes me want to slap my monitor.

Oh and I agree get a used buggy that you get get parts for, buggys rock but a broken buggy in the bottom of your wardrobe is just a waste of space (and money).

[squeeforever]

Lol...I figure he/she should be by now, but I guess not. I probably would have put the old one back up, I just can't find it again though...

[ClodMaxx]

this one?

[stampedeproject]

So you guys didn't know huh?

I bought two of the Yusa buggies, would have bought four if the wife wasn't on to me... Jeez for under $100 each including shipping, they will be good bashing buggies to convert to brushless or finish off a few nitro motors that have a couple hours of life left. The'll be a blast, even if the quality isn't top notch, but they should be excellent quality from what I have turned up.

OK so this will probably generate a little heat on me and whatever...the truth hurts. http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/images/smilies/gasp.gif


So on top of talking to a few international contacts, I did a little research and it turns out there are only a couple oversees manufacturers out there that are building hobby level buggies. In fact 90+% of the buggies all roll out of two factories. I have more than a couple reliable sources that confirm that Yusa was/is the primary manufacturer of the majority of the buggies available. Still trying to find their website and contact info to talk to someone. Those units are then private branded or upgraded per manufacturers spec. Most of them roll out the door simply with a sticker, body, and tires change.

Surprised, it's a small small globalized economy folks.

I talked with two different popular manufactures off the record and both said yes, in fact the Yusa was the same exact unit as their current offering and then proceed to tell me everyone else that was using the same chassis, I was shocked. Wheels, body and electrics, and a machined shock tower here and there may be slightly different though. Now of course there are different "grades" with more or less features, but there is a reason the vast majority of 1/8th scale buggy parts are interchangeable.

The Ebay Yusa doesn't have the CF or machined shock towers, but I would bet that everything else is of agreeable quality. So what is difference in price for the $80 Yusa and some other chassis? Marketing - service, support, sponsorship, branding and all the other stuff adding to operational costs can double to triple the cost of a buggy then of course there is the distributor and retailer markup - ergo an $80 buggy roller chassis become a $399 price point when you finally see it. Everything has a price.

I'll keep you posted with pics when they both arrive.

[glassdoctor]

hey, welcome to the forums. Do you race at the Plex? Some of my buds from DesMoines is there this weekend for the RC Pro Series race.

Anyway... I think you have been sucked in a little too deep on the "Yusa makes everyone's buggy" thing. I don't doubt that they might roll out some rebranded products for other companies.

BUT.... there is no way that only a couple companies make most of the buggies. The guys saying that are feeding you B.S.

If this were even remotely true... it would not be a big secret. People would know... we would know.

btw, I know of one $400+ buggy that rolls out of the factory under $150... then it's sold to the distributors for $250 and $350 to the LHS... and about $400 or so to the consumer. Sounds like this yusa is simply selling direct and bypassing all the markups.

[stampedeproject]

Originally Posted by glassdoctor

...The guys saying that are feeding you B.S.

If this were even remotely true... it would not be a big secret. People would know... we would know.

btw, I know of one $400+ buggy that rolls out of the factory under $150... then it's sold to the distributors for $250 and $350 to the LHS... and about $400 or so to the consumer. Sounds like this yusa is simply selling direct and bypassing all the markups.

Thanks for the open welcome...

I heard some pretty convincing statements from people who have not led me astray before. I think your last statement is correct and is the case with the ebay Yusa deal. As stated in the auction, these were overstocks of some sort. I am sure Suprasales got them for an even deeper discount and are just blowing them out. I am dropping a Novak HV 4.5R in one and a Hacker/Castle system in the other. Should be fun.

Thanks for all the opinions guys. I had decided against it until stampedeprojects post, now I think Im considering it again.
Stampede, do you know of a replacement parts source here in the US? Or another buggy whose parts will be a direct fit?

[stampedeproject]

Originally Posted by B15

Thanks for all the opinions guys. I had decided against it until stampedeprojects post, now I think Im considering it again.
Stampede, do you know of a replacement parts source here in the US? Or another buggy whose parts will be a direct fit?

I dropped you an email.

[stampedeproject]

Hey guys,

Sorry to say it looks the Yusa's were gone by the time we were half way through this discussion, but here are the pics. Screaming deal. Well worth the bucks...