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Lipo shootout is done! - 08.01.2009, 12:14 PM

http://www.bigsquidrc.com/lipo-battery-shoot-out/

Check it out. I have yet to read it but I am sure its good.


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08.01.2009, 12:28 PM

Well, no surprises there...

I think they should've used a higher discharge rate (than 30A) since all of the packs they tested could handle it (supposedly).
   
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08.01.2009, 12:34 PM

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One note here, we also invited MaxAmps to submit a Li-po for the shootout, but we later pulled our offer due to them being the only paying battery advertiser on BigSquidRC. We did so because we didn’t want any readers thinking we were pulling any favoritism in our test results had MaxAmps won or placed well. We wanted to present the most honest, fair, and legit shootout possible, even if it meant excluding one of our site sponsors.
   
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08.01.2009, 12:34 PM

A bit of apples, pears and oranges going on...

Only common thread was that they fit in a slash...
   
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08.01.2009, 12:52 PM

The shootout was done fairly well IMO. Could have been better in several aspects, but not bad overall.


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08.01.2009, 02:04 PM

Not surprised, either.
   
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08.01.2009, 04:08 PM

I agree with Art1k, there were too many different mah sizes and C rates to draw any terribly useful comparisons. Thing that made me laugh the most was that packs were marked down for being expensive; since when does having a higher price tag make a pack bad, especially when its a high spec TP pack compared to the cheapo lower mah and c rate packs?

Packs with identical or near identical specs shold have been tested to determine which were true to their specs and which were over rated ( to make them appear better & compete with better brands).
   
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I dont like how they did that at all. Plus look what they said about the battery they put in last place. The SMC 5200 40C.

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It’s low points being price and top speed. This was one of the packs where it’s raw power made the high speed Slash want to wheelie over at speed, costing it mph.
So its the lowest rated battery because of its speed and power? Something seem fishy there to me.
   
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08.01.2009, 04:32 PM

I agree with both Arct1k and Neil, too many variables. I was expecting them to take, for example, a 5000mah 20C battery from each company and test them against eachother. The data they ended up with wasn't useless by any means, but it wasn't terribly useful either. If I was in the market for new lipos that article wouldn't have been very helpful to me in my decision.

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08.01.2009, 05:13 PM

Good to see the TrueRC packs did as well as they did, Go Dan !
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08.01.2009, 05:29 PM

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I dont like how they did that at all. Plus look what they said about the battery they put in last place. The SMC 5200 40C.



So its the lowest rated battery because of its speed and power? Something seem fishy there to me.
Yeah what the hell is that?

Possibly the tester needs to go back to nitro..... or perhaps some of those "puff to fit" packs that would be a bit easier for him to handle..

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08.01.2009, 05:39 PM

And then ther's this...

From the shootout:

"So you as a reader and a consumer, please keep in mind that those companies that did send us packs care about their product and potential consumers- THEY want your business. Those didn’t respond, perhaps not so much. One note here, we also invited MaxAmps to submit a Li-po for the shootout, but we later pulled our offer due to them being the only paying battery advertiser on BigSquidRC. We did so because we didn’t want any readers thinking we were pulling any favoritism in our test results had MaxAmps won or placed well. We wanted to present the most honest, fair, and legit shootout possible, even if it meant excluding one of our site sponsors."

How convenient, the mystery shall continue....

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08.01.2009, 05:46 PM

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Yeah what the hell is that?

Possibly the tester needs to go back to nitro..... or perhaps some of those "puff to fit" packs that would be a bit easier for him to handle..

My Heavens? Wheelies?

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HAHAHA :) that one made me chuckle


Looks like a decent comparison, but then again cant compare a 4000mah and a 5000mah pack.. but its better then having a runtime comparison...


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08.01.2009, 05:52 PM

Well actually that appears to be another built in design feature on the premium lipos, no clips, straps or velcro hold downs necessary!
   
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08.01.2009, 09:20 PM

That test didn't tell me much, to be honest.

The capacity should have been compared to weight. In one test an 8000mah pack could be last place on the weight test but first place on the capacity test.

Price should have also been compared to capacity and C rating. Can't knock a 35C pack for being 150 bucks and praise a 15C pack for being 80 bucks.

Personally, they should have made some sort of comparison for packs in the 4000-5000mah range or something.


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