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Inside my full scale AC brushless motor
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Inside my full scale AC brushless motor - 04.07.2009, 02:27 PM

Hey guys, just thought I would post some pics of the inside of one of the motors I have for electric car conversion. It's an AC induction machine, so obviously it's brushless... but the reason I opened it up is because I have to put different (sealed) bearing in it, rather than the open type that are in it (because they were oiled from a planetary gearbox built onto the motor).


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04.07.2009, 02:58 PM

I would love to put that in my Saturn...

I've been thinking about converting my daily driver over to EP for a while.
   
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04.07.2009, 02:59 PM

Holy crap! I'd hate to be the one to lift that rotor out... must weigh a ton.


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04.07.2009, 03:00 PM

I like shiny!


That is one huge bearing


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04.07.2009, 03:04 PM

I just checked out your project very cool. What are you using for a controller/inverter?
Any more info would be cool too.
   
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04.07.2009, 03:06 PM

How come all of the metal tools and the spray can and stuff arent sticking to the side of the giant magnet. I have to imagine that thing must have some serious pull.


I can't decide if its more fun
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04.07.2009, 03:06 PM

could I put one in my E-Revo with an MMM on a kajillion S


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What is the spliting maul for!!!
   
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04.07.2009, 05:47 PM

The magnetic pull can't be that great or how the hell would he have gotten the rotor out of the can in the first place? Still I would think the spray can would be attatched to it. IDK?
   
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04.07.2009, 06:15 PM

Is the core a permanent magnet, or is this an induction motor? I would think it's an induction type, which would explain the lack of attracting any ferrous metal within a city block!

Cool motor ZPB! Do you have any specs on it? Like kv, max rpm, max current/power, etc?
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04.07.2009, 07:10 PM

Those Siemens motors are built very nice. Siemens is one of my client and I asked them if they could make a compact, but very powerfull drive system and I'm still waiting for an answer. Good thing I have a few military clients who are in the industry . Just got to come up with the huge amount of $$$$ to get what I need done .

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04.07.2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:
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What is the spliting maul for!!!
To open up the motor of course!


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04.07.2009, 07:53 PM

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Do you have any specs on it? Like kv, max rpm, max current/power, etc?
Not sure what model he has, but here is a spec of the 1PV5135WS14 model:

Make/Model: Siemens, 1PV5135WS14 induction
Type: 3 phase EV AC PM synchronous motor
Rated / max voltage: 215V / 380V
Rated / max Power: 45 kW 61.1hp / 78.4kW 106.6hp
Rated / max RPM: 3,500 / 9,700
Rated / max torque: 120 Nm 89 ft-lb / 190 Nm 140 ft-lb
Max current: 400 A peak 282 A rms
Dimensions mm: 425x245 x245
Weight (motor only): 91 kg 200 lb

The inverter was the Siemens Simovert short (6SV-1) and here are the specs:

Maximum power: 100 kW
Max input voltage: 380 V ±2%
Input voltage range, nom*: 110...350 VDC
Input (battery) current max: 282 A
PWM Switching frequency: 6 kHz
Output current, max (RMS/peak): 282/400 A
Size and weight (aproximately): 25x10x5.5 59lb
Efficiency: 92%
Main contactors: In separate box
DC-DC converter: Integrated
Protection: IP-54
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04.07.2009, 08:08 PM

I also have a picture of the inside of the inverter and the manual if anyone would be interested in that.
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04.07.2009, 08:23 PM

Hey ZPB, Glad to see some progress on the full scale conversion. Have you had any more luck sourcing the controller? I remember that's where you were stuck when I last talked to you.


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