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Fan Question - 02.03.2010, 05:54 PM

I've been on a bit of a break...haven't touched the rcs in over an month but i'm just now getting back in. I gave up on my RROD xbox 360 after a failed towel trick attempt and I got a new one for $90....i'm happy. I have a decent sized fan and I was wondering though, I don't want the RROD to happen again so would putting the fan on it help OR should I up a small PC fan on there to pull out the hot air. Blow in cool air or pull out hot air....whats your advice?

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I've been on a bit of a break...haven't touched the rcs in over an month but i'm just now getting back in. I gave up on my RROD xbox 360 after a failed towel trick attempt and I got a new one for $90....i'm happy. I have a decent sized fan and I was wondering though, I don't want the RROD to happen again so would putting the fan on it help OR should I up a small PC fan on there to pull out the hot air. Blow in cool air or pull out hot air....whats your advice?

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The newer 360's have smaller and cooler running CPU and GPU"s which require less power and thus put out less heat and are less likely to fail then the first gen "Xenon" models. Jasper is the newest with the smaller CPU and GPU dies along with reduced power

Whatever you do, DO NOT BUY a Nyko intercooler for your 360. Myself and many others have had our 360's ruined from that POS. Mine actually melted and fused to the power plug when it failed. Luckily I had a gamestop warranty to replace my 360 outright, but I was still really pissed.

Make sure the 360 has ample breathing room all around and doesn't sit in the sun and you won't need to give it an extra fan.

http://www.360-hq.com/xbox-tutorials-81.html

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472

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The newer 360's have smaller and cooler running CPU and GPU"s which require less power and thus put out less heat and are less likely to fail then the first gen "Xenon" models. Jasper is the newest with the smaller CPU and GPU dies along with reduced power

Whatever you do, DO NOT BUY a Nyko intercooler for your 360. Myself and many others have had our 360's ruined from that POS. Mine actually melted and fused to the power plug when it failed. Luckily I had a gamestop warranty to replace my 360 outright, but I was still really pissed.

Make sure the 360 has ample breathing room all around and doesn't sit in the sun and you won't need to give it an extra fan.

http://www.360-hq.com/xbox-tutorials-81.html

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472
Wow, I was going to buy one of those but though hey I have a fan why not use that. I'd rather be safe than sorry....would blowing into the xbox be bad, as in pushing the hot air back into it?
   
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Just identified that it was the old Xenon model. I still have it, I'll most likely sell it on ebay...or maybe take it apart one day to see what I can see. I have my xbox in an open aired area, not against a wall, no direct sunlight, and I do have an air purifier so I don't think dust will be a problem.
   
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Wow, I was going to buy one of those but though hey I have a fan why not use that. I'd rather be safe than sorry....would blowing into the xbox be bad, as in pushing the hot air back into it?
Make sure you put the fan blowing on the right side of the Xbox that doesnt' have the HDD, not the back or your gonna cancel out the exhaust fans and then you really will have an overheating problem.

I"ve had my Falcon elite 360 for almost three years now with no issues.
   
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So your saying laying down? Hmm never tried that.... its worth a try
   
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So your saying laying down? Hmm never tried that.... its worth a try
In verticle position, the air flow intake holes on the bottom get restricted vs horizontal so less air is moved through the system.
   
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I did it standing on some "stilts" so it could still get airflow underneath. I got about 30-40 minutes of good game play with my fan on it cooling it from the bottom. I came back about 4 hours later and I turn on the fan, turn on the xbox 360 and what do you know....frozen dashboard....just my luck. I'm reattempting the towel trick as we speak so cross your fingers i'll keep you updated
   
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I thought the towel trick was proven to not work.. ?
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Where did you get one for $90?


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I thought the towel trick was proven to not work.. ?
It does work, but not always and not forever.
   
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I did it standing on some "stilts" so it could still get airflow underneath. I got about 30-40 minutes of good game play with my fan on it cooling it from the bottom. I came back about 4 hours later and I turn on the fan, turn on the xbox 360 and what do you know....frozen dashboard....just my luck. I'm reattempting the towel trick as we speak so cross your fingers i'll keep you updated
The PCB board is already warped under the GPU and CPU due to the heat expansion over and over as you power cycle the 360 and due to Microsofts poor design. So no matter what, its gonna keep failing until the Ball solder joints on the CPU simply fail and the 360 dies permanently

Here's an article explaining what I mean

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472

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It works for about 3 days then a towel trick in needed to be re done. It has mega heat problems so a fan is needed to be blow on it or else it will over heat in 9 minutes. It gets me by until my 90 xbox 360 comes in...bought it from rctech. I think i'll just send it back and get a new one while I play the new one that should arrive soon. Then just sell the new one that i get back from MS and make some $$ on my cheap score
   
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The PCB board is already warped under the GPU and CPU due to the heat expansion over and over as you power cycle the 360 and due to Microsofts poor design. So no matter what, its gonna keep failing until the Ball solder joints on the CPU simply fail and the 360 dies permanently

Here's an article explaining what I mean

http://www.anandtech.com/gadgets/showdoc.aspx?i=3472

Well, looky their, My 360 has a falcon chip set. Good to know.......But the f''''''n thing still failed on me
   
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Is it me, or has no one else owned a game console in the 21st century?
I only have my PC (oh thank god!), my Nintendo n64, and a Super Nintendo!

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