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06.08.2010, 08:44 AM
Have you guys seen this yet?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=140412786971
Looks like an attempt to clone the CC/Neu 2200 motor. Haven't seen or heard of these guys before but the can and hardware look very similar, just no fins on the can.
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06.08.2010, 11:44 AM
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Saw these guys in a Chinese model show about a year ago. It's a clone, but uses cheaper components. There are several Castle/Neu clones on the market right now, but none are nearly as good quality -- most use .35mm laminations, where the Castle/Neu uses .2mm laminations, and every one we've seen so far uses inferior bearings, and inferior magnets. These are the most expensive parts of the motor -- and are the most often "skimped" components.
Just going from a .35mm lamination to a .2mm lamination more than doubles the cost of the stator -- but the performance difference at high RPM is extreme...
So you get what you pay for.
Patrick del Castillo
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Castle Creations
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06.08.2010, 11:55 AM
I completely understand Patrick. I was just throwing it up that as a warning.
If I can't run a CC/Neu motor, I'm going with a Neu motor.
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Brushless T maxx? -
06.08.2010, 12:15 PM
Hi guys.I'm looking at getting a MMM for my summit.I was wondering if it'd be good enough to push a maxx.Has anyone done this? My Maxx is RPM'up,so indistructible.
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06.08.2010, 12:17 PM
That motor barely costs less than a real CC/Neu, and the quality and support just won't be there.
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06.08.2010, 01:00 PM
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That motor barely costs less than a real CC/Neu, and the quality and support just won't be there.
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x2, plus you are not supporting thieves.
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06.08.2010, 04:20 PM
x3 For the extra couple dollars I'd rather just get the real thing
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06.08.2010, 06:23 PM
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Why by an inferior motor, with inferior service, from an inferior company, when it will just die on you anyway and good luck getting warranty service. All to save a few bucks, kind of like the HW ESC's, I just don't get it when for just a little more you can have the best products on the market with the best support.
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06.08.2010, 07:55 PM
So true! I toasted my 5700kv motor in my MMP equiped Ofna JL10e, they fixed it without issue. Their customer service alone is worth the few extra $,and thats not even counting the quality!
I was tempted to try a 1/5 conversion using chinese a chinese motor and esc. After hearing about the new 12s car ESC that CC is working on, I have decided to wait :)
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06.08.2010, 08:25 PM
Pony up a few more bucks and get the real deal !
I retired from RC, now life is all about guns and long range shooting.
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06.08.2010, 08:44 PM
So, is this a true clone. I mean could you take the rotor from one, and slap it in the other? Are there specifics about this motor, that are identical to the CC ? When I think clone, I think something that uses the same blueprint, only lower quality components, and build, looser tolerences, ect. Is that what this is, or is it more built on the Neu design, but totally different ?
Either way, for the price , it sure seems very crazy to spend that kind of money for that motor. I bought my Flux 2200, for 92$ , and there seems little doubt, that the CC motor is the best out there, if the size and KV is what you want.
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06.08.2010, 09:52 PM
allot of people would call it being a fan boy of worse, but castle has earned my support, as long as the continue to support us the same way i will be a life long customer, when i started in this hobby i did it cheaply and learned quickly this isn't a hobby for knock off or store brand anything, you play to plan in this hobby and your reward for buying name brans is fewer problems and less stress not to mention customer support
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I'm telling Patrick you said that!
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06.09.2010, 01:12 AM
I met these guys in the Beijing RC Expo in early May. What I saw were HUNDREDS OF motors on their booth, dia. from 28mm, 36mm, 40mm... all the way to 56mm mammoth motors, each with multiple length versions. They also provide smooth can/finned can, sensorless/sensored, 2 pole/4 pole, delta/wye, all KV values, stiff leads/silicone wire/solder tab, colors in red/green/gold/grey/black...... OMG anything you can or can't imagine.
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06.11.2010, 12:15 AM
I put my temp guage and fans away when I got my Castle 2200s. I dont think I will be going back anytime soon. That is definetly not worth the $$$$ they are asking.
Last edited by hemiblas; 06.11.2010 at 12:18 AM.
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