Schulze

[tom255]

Yeah smell is terrible :D
I tried to wash chassis and body no luck hold parts car outside in balcony. When i work on truck my wifes everitime tells me that smell it is? and then I sniff my car now it still smells like hell after more than half year.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Serum

That's what a schulze looks like.....

added a picture to the gallery..

Thanks for sharing Lutach. simple send it back to schulze and see what they say. perhaps they changed their service for a change.

I'll send them an e-mail first just to see if they are even going to bother.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by Serum

http://picasaweb.google.com/buikpijn/Burned_Schulze

Looks good in there .

[Serum]

yeah.. It feels right at home..

[rhylsadar]

hi

looks very bad. how did those 182A happen?

i guess if you send it in you will get the option of buying a new one with 30% off. or was it a new controller you just bought?

@serum
when do you start your other brand walls of shame?

bye
rhylsadar

[Serum]

well, hand me a collection and i'll upload them. I bet it's less interesting, since schulze replaces nearly none under warrantee while some other brands do. Bare in mind that only 1 was replaced under warrantee, and the owner needed to pay for 'investment costs' too..

I feel like repeating myself lately over and over; schulze sucks bigtime in warrantee/service, Instead of blaming them for their worthless service i get the blame for this gallery? it's not about IF a controller smokes, it's about the customer service that stands behind their products. schulze seriously lacks in this department.

Basically, all the controllers in my gallery are not warranteed, except for 1. That's a a lot of money down the drain. it also took money to replace that controller that was replaced for 'free' Go figure.

[rhylsadar]

so you expect from a company to replace any smoked esc basically? i wonder which company can/will do this in the long run.

i see 182A there. don't know what caused it exactly but i guess any esc would have burnt.

the only thing i do not like about your collection is that it seems to implicate that schulzes do burn more often than any other esc which is most probably not the case at all. i do not say that you intend to implicate exactly this. but it sure will make this (unintended) impression to many unexperienced users.

but hey that's just my view and therefore its not important at all.

bye
rhylsadar

[lutach]

I have no clue what caused that spike. I guess the Schulze didn't like going forward after it rolled backwards. I just tried another controller in the truck and it is working fine, so it's not the motor. Nothing got stuck in the drive train. The controller is not new so I might as well forget about it, but I'll send an email with the pictures to Schulze. Germany should be the country to have the best engineering and customer service, but I get better service from Asian companies. I was afraid of using my Schulze after all the stories and I more afraid now. Imagine if my 40.160 burns. I hear people are paying up to $800 for it now.

[tom255]

Spike is simple Short in ESC, and its like a lavine untill it fully burned

I was afraid of using my Schulze after all the stories and I more afraid now. Imagine if my 40.160 burns. I hear people are paying up to $800 for it now.

And it what I stay away from schulze and german made BK 9920/12020 :)

[othello]

Sorry for your ESC Lutach. One could expect from a high end ESC that it senses when the car is rolling backward. In this state it should apply brakes when you move your throttle forward. Only after the car has stopped it should apply power again ... atleast that is what i'm used to with the Kontoniks Jazz ESC.

Rhylsadar: do you have your schulze setup for reverse? What does the schulze do when your rolling backward and you apply throttle forward?

182A from a 2200mAh pack is impressive indeed. When my endbell came off my Neu 1512 my Eagletree micropower showed an Amp spike at 128A. Could be the limit of my Eagletree logger or the limit of those A123 cells i use. Luckily the Jazz 55 survived.

[gixxer]

wow, that looks familar. I have killed two schulze 18.97's like that but actually still have a schulze that works (12.97). of course it probably only still works because it doesn't get used much :)

actually the only reason I know it works is I tried it while waiting to get my MM back.

[suicideneil]

hmm, suddenly I feel hungry... might go get some TOAST. Bad luck Lutach, that really sucks for you man.

Funny thing though, everywhere I go, and there are alot of websites/forums I visit on my travels, I always see threads about burnt schulzes, and I always hear about the lack-lustre customer service. Usually the customer gets blamed for bad wiring or improper use erc, regardless of the actual circumstances surrounding the esc buring up.

I know theirs arent the only escs that go bad, but they do seem to go bad quite spectacually; not just a burnt fet and some smoke, or suddenly stops working.... nope, bursts into flames without warning. The name Schulze has much the same negativity around it as Integy does....

[lutach]

Originally Posted by othello

Sorry for your ESC Lutach. One could expect from a high end ESC that it senses when the car is rolling backward. In this state it should apply brakes when you move your throttle forward. Only after the car has stopped it should apply power again ... atleast that is what i'm used to with the Kontoniks Jazz ESC.

Rhylsadar: do you have your schulze setup for reverse? What does the schulze do when your rolling backward and you apply throttle forward?

182A from a 2200mAh pack is impressive indeed. When my endbell came off my Neu 1512 my Eagletree micropower showed an Amp spike at 128A. Could be the limit of my Eagletree logger or the limit of those A123 cells i use. Luckily the Jazz 55 survived.

It's cool. I have a few ESC that applys the brakes when it goes backwards and I like that. I also have a couple that will go forward after it determines the speed is low enough. I'm liking this packs a lot. I might bring a few of them in.

[lutach]

Originally Posted by suicideneil

hmm, suddenly I feel hungry... might go get some TOAST. Bad luck Lutach, that really sucks for you man.

Funny thing though, everywhere I go, and there are alot of websites/forums I visit on my travels, I always see threads about burnt schulzes, and I always hear about the lack-lustre customer service. Usually the customer gets blamed for bad wiring or improper use erc, regardless of the actual circumstances surrounding the esc buring up.

I know theirs arent the only escs that go bad, but they do seem to go bad quite spectacually; not just a burnt fet and some smoke, or suddenly stops working.... nope, bursts into flames without warning. The name Schulze has much the same negativity around it as Integy does....

Schulze should be setting the standard for every other manufacturer out there, but USA (Castle Creations) and a few companies from Asia are really locking the market down. They offer outstanding CS and very often they just replace the product without any question. I might try one of the value controllers from Schulze mainly because they will use the larger FETs and all the controllers I tried with the D2PAK of DPAK MOSFETs have lasted longer. Actually the only one I burned was the sample I got from the company that is doing my controller and that was my fault.

[Serum]

i spent/wasted a lot of emails with that company about my controller when it smoked.

first they didn't want to replace my controller, i got a 30% discount, after a few emails i got 50% discount, and after a few more emails i got my replacement for 'free' i needed to pay roughly 50 euro for 'research time' (didn't know this until i received the controller)and i was blamed to machined the plugs. (it was a loose contact matter according to them)

I used plugs they didn't approved (but i asked them about these plugs before i even bought them) later they 'realized' that i probably machined the plugs.

I don't feel obliged to support a company like that. they put me through quite some stress back then.

@rhylsader; 182A; that is most likely from a dead-shortening in the controller.

and your opinion is appreciated, but I think you also need to respect mine in this matter. You know the entire story behind it. You also know how many threads there where on monstersparadise about smoked schulzes.. I am surprised to see your reaction to this. What controllers did you wasted if i may ask?