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Airing some Dirty Laundry -
10.05.2009, 10:27 AM
Ok, I usually do not do this, but I figured a little "heads up" to the other forum members would be cool here.
Watch out for T-Bro...
Some back story here: We worked out a deal, he traded me a plett motor and some cash for 2 lipos, a 4s and a 6s 5000 mah 25c flightpower packs. Both packs were brand new, and all 10 cells were matched. I mailed him the packs, and received the motor and cash.
He used the 6s pack once, and then tried to charge it. He is using an astro 109. Well, he could not get the charger to charge the pack as a 6s pack, only as a 5s pack (the astro "automatically" detects the number of cells, you cannot set this manually).
From the beginning he insisted it was a bad pack, and wanted me to replace the pack, ie send him a new 6s pack. I told him to return the pack to me and I would have a look at it. He made me pay for return shipping.
When I received the pack it was in decent balance, and had about 3.5v per cell. I did not do anything to the pack, just plugged it into the hyperion 610I charger I have and set the charger to charge a 5000mah 6s pack at 5amps. About 1 hour later the charger beeped. The pack was fully charged and in balance. Took 4622 mah back in.
I have let the pack sit charged now for more than 2 weeks and it has not gone out of balance or otherwise had issues. I sent him an email and a pm with the info that I had, and stated that there was nothing wrong with the pack. He did not reply.
So I get an email a day or so ago from him (it has been at least 3 weeks now, maybe more) asking if I had sent him a replacement pack. I said he needed to re-read my last email with the info.
Now he is giving me a hard time saying that I told him I would replace the pack, and that he does not want the pack back. He said that I am trying to get out of the deal we made (I told him I would replace the pack, should there be an issue with it, such as a defective cell). I have re-read the emails and can see that he was angling for a new pack from the get go, and that I made it clear that I wanted to have the "bad" pack in my hands before I made a decision.
The way I see it, he is using an esc w/o a lvc, schulze, and he is using an old charger, astro 109 w/blinky. Given the astro 109's cell detection he most likely ran the pack under 3v per cell and the charger thought it was a 5s pack due to the low voltage. So that is why it did not properly charge the pack. Or the charge has some other issues, but he says it works fine with other packs (and it may well work fine).
Since the pack has charged fine, and not self discharged it is fine. No physical damage to the pack either, so it had not been physically abused.
I told him yesterday that I would send the pack back to him (as it is his pack) but he would have to pay for shipping, and that I would like to be reimbursed for what I paid to ship the pack back to me in the first place. He balked at that, and now wants a full refund, ie, his motor and cash back. My issue with that is that I traded him brand new lipos, and will be getting back used ones, plus I have no idea if he has much idea about how to properly care for these lipos (evident in that he appears to have run the 6s under voltage), plus his equipment (charger setup and esc) is not really up to task to use lipo. Plus a trade is a trade, and I view it that way. I have not run the plett, but I take it on good faith that it is not roasted or has issues. I kept up my end of the deal by sending him new lipos, but I cannot be held responsible for what he does with them. And there is nothing wrong with the 6s pack, so I do not see why he has to have a new one from me...
Not looking for anyone to side with me here, but I would appreciate some input on this situation. Do you guys think I am handling this correctly? I have not done anything wrong (in my opinion) but a 3rd party perspective is always a good idea.
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