Quark fried, blown capacitor...

[suicideneil]

Horses for courses- the MM is obviously much better programming wise & in a lightish truck, but the Air master can handle higher loads in a heavier truck- just doesnt have many programming options. Like I said, its like a better spec HvMaxx- simple but effective. I think its best to let 10kguy test it out and report back.

[BrianG]

Won't you need that other device that translates the rx signal... the pistix adaptor or something like that?

[suicideneil]

Ah, quite possibily. I know somewhere it says that certain escs normally used on planes/helis require that item inorder to work correctly. But then again quark may have taken it into account since the two escs are basically the same.

[BrianG]

There just HAS to be something else that is different about the two to account for the difference in price (more than 33%!), other than a simple software change. I wonder if they both use the same FETs and/or the same FET count? I think one of our richer forum members should pick one up, take it apart, and report the findings. :)

And no, I'm not volunteering...

[zeropointbug]

You might be right Brian. I am starting to think that they can get away with having great customer service because of the high price tag of the Quarks. I just can't see it costing that much to build, or at least, no more than a MM? :032:

[suicideneil]

Does seem like rather a large price difference for a software upgrade, but it may be because the Monster Pros are more likely to get abused and require fixing/replacing alot more often than the Airmaster version. Anyone daring enough to put on a fake accent and phone up S&T to enquire- pretend you're interested in getting some of each for your new R/C business.....

I think that the software could account for the price differential. I'm going to assume that it took a lot more programming and testing to develop the software for the car controller, than it did for the plane controller. I'm not saying that the large difference in price is justified.

I compared the specs of the two controllers and they appear to be identical. I wonder if the 125 was initially designed as a car controller and then made into a plane controller as an after thought, either by accident or design.

[zeropointbug]

I agree, it would be a lot more work and testing a car software compared to air software. The pricing must be because of more abuse on the car version, and they want to keep a satisfied customer base. I know I am, even though two crapped the bed on me.

i think its just that they know that they have a niche at the moment until mamba max monster comes out.

Anyone remember when the quarks were 100 dollars cheaper at rc mart when they first came out and then quark obviously enforced there msrp policy and rcmart changed there prices.

I think these are 170 dollar controllers that are being sold at 270 dollars because they can people still buy them.

i mean it does not even run 6s lipo as its rated to do.
It also overheats as they used double-sided tape to stick it together i mean come on.

I wonder how hard it would be to read the software off a monster pro rom chip and then flash it to the 125 air master?

[zeropointbug]

Originally Posted by chilledoutuk

i think its just that they know that they have a niche at the moment until mamba max monster comes out.

Anyone remember when the quarks were 100 dollars cheaper at rc mart when they first came out and then quark obviously enforced there msrp policy and rcmart changed there prices.

I think these are 170 dollar controllers that are being sold at 270 dollars because they can people still buy them.

i mean it does not even run 6s lipo as its rated to do.
It also overheats as they used double-sided tape to stick it together i mean come on.

I wonder how hard it would be to read the software off a monster pro rom chip and then flash it to the 125 air master?

$100 cheaper, when did they come out? The firmware reading thing would be near impossible, I would think.

I would have to agree, the Quark really is a niche (not niche market), as it is an impressive controller in it's own way. But so is MM, in another way, and the ComPro as well. But overall, the Quark, among other controllers is the one to have I think. If only they added a USB programming hub...

[silentbob343]

Originally Posted by chilledoutuk

I wonder how hard it would be to read the software off a monster pro rom chip and then flash it to the 125 air master?

I saw one of their air controllers on ebay at a great price, so I emailed S&T asking if I could send in an air controller and have it flashed/converted to a car controller.

Their repsonse; "No."
:031:

well no mods runs his is his converted mgt... and he said theres no cogging with 8 cell packs... hes running a neu... in a 13 lb truck......

[BrianG]

The chip they use might be a program-once type of IC. Unfortunately, they grind the top of their ICs so you can't read the part number, so it's hard to say. Maybe they simply can't without replacing the chip...

Isn't there a way to replace the chip with some sort of eprom? If that is the right word for it.

[BrianG]

Without knowing what the original chip is for pinout and spec compatibility, that would be difficult IMO. It's one thing if someone has all the parts to do it, but it may simply be easier to get the car version after all is said and done.