RC-Monster Forums  

Go Back   RC-Monster Forums > Support Forums > Brushless

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old
  (#1)
Patrick
RC-Monster Aluminum
 
Patrick's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 862
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Perth, Western Australia
10.13.2007, 03:09 AM

I'd say they used idler gears in the e-maxx transmission, because if they didn't then the input shaft would sit about 20mm lower. Good for center of gravity, but the 66t spur gear would be hitting the chassis and probably drive shaft. The motors might also sit too close to the batteries, making them too hard to get in and out.

You could put make a mount for a center diff and put that in the maxx, but the problem is that the motor will probably be sitting so low (this if if you put the motor in the center, above the diff with the pinion going straight onto the spur) that it could hit the chassis. Depending on what chassis you have you might be able to make it work, but could be hard.
Do you want it to have a center diff or constant 4 wheel drive like the maxx transmission.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#2)
squeeforever
RC-Monster Mod
 
squeeforever's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 6,254
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Baton Rouge
10.13.2007, 10:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick View Post
I'd say they used idler gears in the e-maxx transmission, because if they didn't then the input shaft would sit about 20mm lower. Good for center of gravity, but the 66t spur gear would be hitting the chassis and probably drive shaft. The motors might also sit too close to the batteries, making them too hard to get in and out.
You have to take into account the fact that without the idler gears, the ratios would be different. So it might not be a 66T spur. Also have to think about the fact that the upper shaft gear size would probably be different.
  Send a message via AIM to squeeforever  
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#3)
lincpimp
Check out my huge box!
 
lincpimp's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 11,935
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Slidell, LA
10.13.2007, 11:59 AM

The idler gear has no effect on the ratio in the tranny. Emaxx 2nd gear has an 18t top gear and a 31t bottom gear. The ratio is 1.7222222 = 31/18. Because both gears engage the idler it spins at the same rpm. This is true of any 3 gear tranny. The idler is only used to space out the two gears for packaging reasons.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#4)
Finnster
KillaHurtz
 
Finnster's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,958
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bucks Co, PA
10.13.2007, 12:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by lincpimp View Post
The idler gear has no effect on the ratio in the tranny. Emaxx 2nd gear has an 18t top gear and a 31t bottom gear. The ratio is 1.7222222 = 31/18. Because both gears engage the idler it spins at the same rpm. This is true of any 3 gear tranny. The idler is only used to space out the two gears for packaging reasons.
Its true it has no effect on ratio, as both gears are directly tied to the idler, but nearly every tranny I've seen has an idler, so was wondering if there is some engineering purpose other than a spacer. They do reverse the direction of rotation as well. Many brushed motor have timing in the end bells, so perhaps its there to make sure that the rotation is the same direction as travel, instead of requiring an unconventionally built brushed motor. Obviously w/ BL or 0* this is not needed.
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#5)
zeropointbug
Z-Pinch racer
 
zeropointbug's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 3,141
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: SK, Canada
10.13.2007, 03:29 PM

I agree, it's just used as a spacer in almost all applications. I don't think it has anything to do with the brushed motor direction in direct drive apps, because you COULD switch the motor around to the other side of the tranny... simple design change.


“The modern astrophysical concept that ascribes the sun’s energy to thermonuclear reactions deep in the solar interior is contradicted by nearly every observable aspect of the sun.” —Ralph E. Juergens
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#6)
Finnster
KillaHurtz
 
Finnster's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 2,958
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Bucks Co, PA
10.13.2007, 05:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by zeropointbug View Post
I agree, it's just used as a spacer in almost all applications. I don't think it has anything to do with the brushed motor direction in direct drive apps, because you COULD switch the motor around to the other side of the tranny... simple design change.
True, but I was think more of the rustler, RC10T4 and the like. :)
   
Reply With Quote
Old
  (#7)
Hickoryhead
RC Wanna BE
 
Hickoryhead's Avatar
 
Offline
Posts: 340
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southern Utah
10.13.2007, 09:31 PM

My thinking of all this is if you can gain power and torque you might not need such a big motor like my 1950 1800kv to power a Maxx size car. You might be able to use a 1920 size or similar one. Meaning having a lower transmission or slipperntial powered by a smaller motor. That would cover the motor size worry and give you a lower ceter of gravity. I am not sure if it would work but I will try to see if I can get one built. I understand the gear issue to. It will take some playing around to find the ratio that will change.

Finnster—I don’t want to draw attention to myself or sound like I am bragging but I feel I do “think” differently than other people. I failed certain math classes in HS because the teachers demanded I show my work. They could not understand how I came to solutions yet I had the answers. I took some pre tests for college math and I tested out of most of the classes. I know how to solve the problems but I go about it other ways. I take that route with alot of problems in my life. Drives my wife nuts. My brain does make up for it in other areas. I have a picture perfect memory and other talents. No offence taken. I can take a good ribbing.


NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION

Emaxx Tranny slipper modification (Strobe like)
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9341
   
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump







Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vBulletin Skin developed by: vBStyles.com