Plettenberg vs. Neu?

[Serum]

Yeah, they are nice motors for sure.

But i prefer Neu. They seem to be more efficient and broadly available in the US.

Once castle creations launches their Neu/MMM combo the brushless world will change.

[rhylsadar]

if i was living in the us i would probably pick a neu too.
if they are more efficient....hard to believe.
as the mamba max works great with a plettenberg i hope the monster version will do the same. so that will hopefully be a very nice and broad usable controller.

bye
rhylsadar

[suicideneil]

I'll take the one on the right, thats plenty for my needs! Price wise, ICare-rc sells the BM for $347, whilst the M with fan is $279. So, a bit more pricey than the Neus, but nice motors all the same.

[2FastSS4U]

Those motors are sexy, why the need for a fan though with those huge fins on it?

[GriffinRU]

Plettenberg Big Maximum (HP 220/40/A2 S P4 Car)
is a 4-pole motor.
bearings are rated at 70000 RPM, but not the motor efficiency or power...

Motor specs at 18V:
Power - 1271W
Current draw - 70.3A
RPM - 37688
Torque -28.9Ncm
Efficiency 89.8%

max efficiency (91.5%) at ~45A / ~40000RPM / ~18Ncm

Motor can be pushed towards 2000W but efficiency falling dramatically, though great cooling system keeps it from falling apart.

[lutach]

I think the Bigmaxximum is a 6 poler motor. If you look at the first picture on this site http://rc.stuurmijmail.nl/Bigmaxximum/index.html you can see 3 bumps which are the magnets and that is half of the rotor.

[GriffinRU]

Originally Posted by lutach

I think the Bigmaxximum is a 6 poler motor. If you look at the first picture on this site http://rc.stuurmijmail.nl/Bigmaxximum/index.html you can see 3 bumps which are the magnets and that is half of the rotor.

I will trust Plettenberg catalog :)

[lutach]

They are only mentioning the Maxximum. The BigMaxximum is 6 Poles.

i thought the plett extreme and shadow are both 4 poles and the indoor was 6 poles.

I cant find any info on that though so correct me if i am wrong.

[lutach]

The Extreme is 6 poles. I have it open to change the bearing.

[zeropointbug]

Regardless, 6 poles, 4 poles, it is not going to change the power output, which is all that matters.

[lutach]

It might not change the power output, but it will certainly have more torque.

[zeropointbug]

Usually, a higher pole motor will have more torque, but a 4 poler can have more, even a 2 pole.

Ex. - Does a Neu motor have twice the torque of a Lehner motor because it's 4 pole, certainly not.

[BrianG]

It's hard to compare Neu and LMT because they are totally different. Neu is 4 pole but uses slotted stators. The LMT is 2 pole but uses "air core" stators. Each type has advantages, but generally anything in that price range will be VERY similar performance-wise.

does the plettenberg shadow have 6 poles as well or is that 4 poles?