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12.05.2007, 12:36 PM

For some reason the digital camera didn't really pick up the sound of the outrunner very well. At higher RPMs it sounds like a futuristic ray gun or something (it doesn't sound like that in person).

Only problem with the E-Maxx output shaft is that it's 6mm at the ends (like the Revo is), but the MT2 uses 5mm outputs. Also, I think the E-Maxx output shaft would be too long to fit on the chassis. Good idea though!

Sometime I might try that dehardening and rehardening method (with the steel shaft, of course ). But for now the holes are deep enough that there are set screws sitting in them, and it's a very solid fit.


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For some reason the digital camera didn't really pick up the sound of the outrunner very well. At higher RPMs it sounds like a futuristic ray gun or something (it doesn't sound like that in person).

Only problem with the E-Maxx output shaft is that it's 6mm at the ends (like the Revo is), but the MT2 uses 5mm outputs. Also, I think the E-Maxx output shaft would be too long to fit on the chassis. Good idea though!

Sometime I might try that dehardening and rehardening method (with the steel shaft, of course ). But for now the holes are deep enough that there are set screws sitting in them, and it's a very solid fit.
Use a medium to removeable strength locktight for final assembly. I put some in the hole before I put the set screw in. The low viscosity Green Medium Strength by Permatex is my top choice for this. The set screws will still break loose with an Allen Wrench, plus it wicks into the space between the endbell and the shaft. This helps strengthen things. Also use it or Blue removeable on the endbell set screws. It would be a really BAD thing for the endbell to come loose from the shaft.

The E maxx output shaft is 67.6mm long. It is 6mm in diameter. If this length is compatible, it's much easier to turn the hard stuff down to 5mm for the drive cup fit, than it is to drill a hole in it. Just put it in a drill press, spin it, and use a file on it or even a Dremel tool. But if you are satisfied with yours already, then it's all good. The set screws should hold just fine with some loctite.

Hey JohnRob, You gonna make a thread on your build? I would love to see some pictures.

My E Revo is currently waiting on more upgrade parts.

1. 125amp Quark Monster Pro - I will do a small Cap mod to it, mount it with some thermal compound to the Aluminum ESC mount, then I intend to eliminate the 4mm connectors and the extra wire length. I'm going to go right down through the top of the ESC mount to the motor. About 2 inches of wire is all there will be from Motor to ESC, Once I settle on the final motor that is.

2. Castle Creations 10amp BEC. I'm going to make this a permanent fixture for this setup irregardless of what Battery setup I'm running. It's more efficient and takes that much heat further away from the ESC.

3. Custom wound 4130 - I'm still waiting on my 22Ga. 392 degree winding wire to get here.

I wanna crank this thing up. I'll make some more Video's too.
   
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Use a medium to removeable strength locktight for final assembly. I put some in the hole before I put the set screw in. The low viscosity Green Medium Strength by Permatex is my top choice for this. The set screws will still break loose with an Allen Wrench, plus it wicks into the space between the endbell and the shaft. This helps strengthen things. Also use it or Blue removeable on the endbell set screws. It would be a really BAD thing for the endbell to come loose from the shaft.

The E maxx output shaft is 67.6mm long. It is 6mm in diameter. If this length is compatible, it's much easier to turn the hard stuff down to 5mm for the drive cup fit, than it is to drill a hole in it. Just put it in a drill press, spin it, and use a file on it or even a Dremel tool. But if you are satisfied with yours already, then it's all good. The set screws should hold just fine with some loctite.
Blue medium strength is what I use on everything. It's already on the set screws holding the shaft, and on the set screws holding the cups to the shaft (and on the end of those set screws).

The E-Maxx output shaft, if 67.6mm long, is actually just about the perfect length for the motor. However, it's got that big chunk of metal in the middle, which would take a while to turn down or cut off.


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Blue medium strength is what I use on everything. It's already on the set screws holding the shaft, and on the set screws holding the cups to the shaft (and on the end of those set screws).

The E-Maxx output shaft, if 67.6mm long, is actually just about the perfect length for the motor. However, it's got that big chunk of metal in the middle, which would take a while to turn down or cut off.
That big chunk comes off pretty quick if you put it in a cordless drill, then hold it against a Bench Grinder. I take my time and don't get it too hot. Just stopping occasionally to cool it with cold water. Get it down close, then use a file on it to rough cut some more, and final polishing is done with sandpaper.

You might be surprised how fast this little procedure is. I removed the center "chunks" from two of the Revo Output shafts, fully prepped in about 30 to 45 minutes or so.
   
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12.05.2007, 09:09 PM

Fascinating thread thanks all.
I love that outrunner video- BIZARRE to see the can spinning!
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That big chunk comes off pretty quick if you put it in a cordless drill, then hold it against a Bench Grinder. I take my time and don't get it too hot. Just stopping occasionally to cool it with cold water. Get it down close, then use a file on it to rough cut some more, and final polishing is done with sandpaper.

You might be surprised how fast this little procedure is. I removed the center "chunks" from two of the Revo Output shafts, fully prepped in about 30 to 45 minutes or so.
Good to know, I might do that in the future.

I have some good news - the motor mount is almost finished, and is made out of 1/4" polycarbonate, that was bent to 90* with a heat gun. The brake assembly is finished, and should work adequately. Now I just need to figure out battery mounting, chassis bracing, steering servo mounting, and ESC mounting (this ESC is HUGE). I just wish the MT2 chassis weren't so small.


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Let me know how the Polycarbonate Motor mount works out. I feel like I could have saved some weight with the use of other lightweight materials such as Carbon Fiber.

One desireable trait about Aluminum is it's heat sinking ability.
   
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