Novak Brushless Conversion

[gixxer]

Originally Posted by Sower

On another note, I would really like to see a 1:8 brushless truggy that didn't start life as a nitro. One that was built completely around a brushless/lipo system. Chassis, drivetrain, everything. I know . . .

I think we would all love to see that. However it will probably still be awhile before we see that.

[mwry13]

I give it a good 2 years before brushless 1/8 catches on... but from the enthusiasm i got at the Kyosho race... i could be wrong.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by mwry13

I give it a good 2 years before brushless 1/8 catches on... but from the enthusiasm i got at the Kyosho race... i could be wrong.

What happened at the Kyosho race?

[mwry13]

Originally Posted by Patrick

What happened at the Kyosho race?

i talked to at least a good 20 people who were interested in my car. The most popular question was how expensive was it to do this to a car... and i just told them its pre close to if you were building a comp. nitro rig... with the exception that i virtually no day to day costs like fuel, cluch shoes, etc etc

Nitro:
1. 450 ish for motor / pipe combo
2. 110 a piece for servos
3. anywhere from 50 to 90 bucks a reciever depending on what ya got
4. 30 bucks for a reciever pack
5. and usually (in my experience) about 40-50 bucks a week in matenence costs I.E cluch shoes, bearings, fuel, air filters

450+110+50+30+40= 680

Electric
1. around 200ish for a nice motor
2. 120 for a speed control (not sure what the MMM or tekin R1-MT will cost but a definate must imo)
3. about 220 for a pack ( 4s setup ) (ide go with at least 2 packs so about 440)
4. 110 for a servo
5. 20 for a Castle BEC (so awsome)

200+120+440+110+20= 890

a 200 dollar spread would be made up in about 2 months of racing a nitro rig... and for me its worth it

Wish i could of made something happen, i was in the expert C with about 4 min to go with a 30 second lead on second. I was about to bumb and bam when i came off a triple it started cogging really bad... i found out later my ESC poped out of the case and was flopping around the car for who knows how long... i broke a small piece off the board and that ended my day ^_^

thats the jest of what went on at the kyosho race

[jhautz]

I picked nitro will always be better.... If I have to choose between a Novak BL system with a center slipper clutch (no center diff) and 2 battery packs sitting way out on the mud gaurds or a nitro.... I guess Ill take the nitro.

Now a properly set up 1/8 electric.... thats the way of the future.

I think the novak conversion looks so bad I'm almost afraid it will ruin the good name of 1/8 brushless. First timers will try it thinking its "real" brushless and ditch it and never look back.

[nl12]

Originally Posted by gixxer

I think we would all love to see that. However it will probably still be awhile before we see that.

I bet it will be much sooner than you think

[mwry13]

I hope so too... Big guys behind the company like Brent Thelkie and Ryan Lutz were interested in the car... Hopefully there enthusiasm will push a experamental car ^_^

[nativepaul]

I went for team Tyco too, I don't have a Tyco but none of the options fit, i do believe that the future is electric, but I don't think it will be because of Novak, RCMonster started the brushless revolution ages ago.

It may be a hit, anything publicised well enough will have buyers.

I won't be buying one to replace my setup. if they gave me one I'd try it for sure, and probably run till it broke then go back to my current setup.

I wouldn't even look at one if I had a MGM/Neu.

[GO-RIDE.com]

It seems Novak's first attempt at their HV system wasn't so great. However, if they put the effort into their second attempt that they have into their 10th scale race equipment, it will be very good.

I run my crt.5 on a Novak GTB esc and 6.5 velocity motor and it does not run hot with a calculated top speed of 40mph. I run up to the equivalent of 10min mains and get very little heat. I don't have a temp gun, but I can leave my finger on the motor with no discomfort (no heat sink) and the esc does not get above warm (stock fan).

Originally Posted by mwry13

I hope so too... Big guys behind the company like Brent Thelkie and Ryan Lutz were interested in the car... Hopefully there enthusiasm will push a experamental car ^_^

I am very good friends with Ryan Lutz and we were racing together so i talked about the BL 1/8 buggies and he did not did not say much but i think he liked the it... But the down side is u can not run a 1hr main with out a battery change and what if the battery gets damaged or it is not charged all the way or the esc breaks because i know they can take a lot but a 1hr main and one might break so that is the down side... But you could say so much about a nitro car to because there is a lot that can go wrong to.. i do not think that electric 1/8 buggy or truggy will make it into the pro racing seen unless it was in its own class... The sound of a nitro car is so exciting and the electric is not but electric is faster and has more power over all...

So it i like both nitro and electric i think that when more pros get into the electric 1/8 cars then batteries will get better an last a good 45m minutes with full power and then i think most will switch to electric i race nirto right now but i am working a converting my 1/8 bugggy to electric..