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02.04.2008, 01:21 AM

People are always going to want more and never be happy. A lot of the guys here already have gear that will do what the MMM will so they want something better.

Personally I will be ecstatic when I get the MMM in my hands.


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02.04.2008, 01:39 AM

I for one look forward to CCs new products. They seem to be ahead of the curve IMO. I am sure that the vast majority of the mmm systems will be purchased with the highest kv motor and run on 4s or (god forbid) a pair of venom 3300 stick packs! Most people out there have a hard time grasping lipo tech, that is why every issue of rcca and the others have some sort of lipo info in them. (on a side not I have read very little about balancers in the mags, so they have very little idea too, just like the bulk of the readers).

In any case the MMM will be 6s capable, most likely run cool, and have a variety of features that no other esc has now. Plus it will have customer support. And some sort of mass produced neu designed motor. I for one would like the middle kv motor and a 6s 4000 pack. Sounds like that would make an e-revo fly! As nice as hv is, it does pose some issues, mainly battery placement. Of course smaller cells can be used, but there is not a great selection of those at the moment. I like the maxamps 2100 cells, venom makes a good 2100 pack too. The flightpower cells are a bit longer, but may work too. Keep in mind that a 5s 5000 battery and a 10s 2100 battery have about the same output potential. And the 10s 2100 is cheaper and lighter.
   
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02.04.2008, 02:09 AM

I have been very pleased racing with my HV110 on 8S A123's
I have easily completed a 15 min main on new packs so it will be interesting to see how long the A123's can continue to complete 15 minute races.

If the Monster Max can handle 28.8v than I would be willing to give it a try. Otherwise, I'll stick with the HV110 on 8S A123's until the HV Monster Max comes to fruition.


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Higher voltage=lower amps. A few guys here understand that concept, but a lot still doesn't. 8-12S lipos will mean lower capacity packs. You can still use 4-6S lipos. AMPs is what causes most of the heat found in today's systems. Yes, we want a ESC capable of 20S, I'm trying to have one made that can handles 14S. Schulze for example has a good choice of controllers for every kind of application and you can't go wrong with the 40.160 and now they have a huge 300A controller (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/fut-xxl-e.htm) and a value controller line (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/prs22_d.htm). Schulze understand the market better then any other company out there and if a company is willing to risk who knows what with a monster like that, I would be following right behind them, but here in the USA. Even Jeti has a 300A controller, but it is only meant for the sky. Keep in my that the Thunder Power Performance Series Lithium's ( http://www.thunderpowerrc.com/html/h...rformance.html) are a bargain and if I can get 20 minutes out of 2200mAh in 6S imagine what 10S-12S 3700 or 4450mAh will do. It is a simple concept that a few people are finding difficulties understanding.
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Higher voltage=lower amps. A few guys here understand that concept, but a lot still doesn't. 8-12S lipos will mean lower capacity packs. You can still use 4-6S lipos. AMPs is what causes most of the heat found in today's systems. Yes, we want a ESC capable of 20S, I'm trying to have one made that can handles 14S. Schulze for example has a good choice of controllers for every kind of application and you can't go wrong with the 40.160 and now they have a huge 300A controller (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/fut-xxl-e.htm) and a value controller line (http://www.schulze-elektronik-gmbh.de/prs22_d.htm). Schulze understand the market better then any other company out there and if a company is willing to risk who knows what with a monster like that, I would be following right behind them, but here in the USA. Even Jeti has a 300A controller, but it is only meant for the sky. Keep in my that the Thunder Power Performance Series Lithium's ( http://www.thunderpowerrc.com/html/h...rformance.html) are a bargain and if I can get 20 minutes out of 2200mAh in 6S imagine what 10S-12S 3700 or 4450mAh will do. It is a simple concept that a few people are finding difficulties understanding.
I like using higher voltage because it reduces the amount of heat from high current draw and it allows the use of lower C rated batteries such as 10-15C Lipo's and really helps A123's, not to mention that I have always seemed to get better run times with higher voltage systems.

We don't have to image what you'll get from 12S 3700mAh or 4450mAh.
Setup properly, you should get over 33.6 minutes on the 3700's and over 40.45 min on the 4450mAh packs


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