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[JThiessen]

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_

you only need space to play low frequencies, no radio music has or any store bought cd's (except for bass specific cd's) play low enough to warrant that large of a room, however, a bigger woofer has a larger cone area and will play louder than a smaller woofer, he says he wants more bass than a single 12" with 285w gives him, so a smaller woofer is not the answer. A subwoofer is just a fancy air pump, move more air=more bass bigger woofer=more air moved. A plate amp is just an extra amp to only power the subwoofer. You'd still need a non-powered (passive) subwoofer. It's easier and cheaper to buy a powered subwoofer rather than an amp and a subwoofer.

You are correct, he did say "More" - not "Better"......

Smaller woofers will give crisper, more accurate and cleaner sound, especially when driven by high power. The REL line http://www.rel.net/of subs is widely considered one of the best out there, and I dont believe they have any over 10", but they are running gobs of clean wattage (true rms values) in a small space. If you want your house to shake on a budget, then bigger with less power will do that. If you want to invest in the future (if that can even be considered with todays electronics market), get a smaller high powered one, then down the road, add a second or third sub to the system. My first one was a 1XX watt Yamaha Dual Driver sub, that actually did quite well. I picked it up at a demo sale for a little over 100 bucks. Its nothing compared to what I run now, but it was a great place to start and learn what I liked in my theater.

wow,def tec! remember the bp2000's with the built in 18" powered sub? awesome......

Yes, I almost went with the BP line, but I personally preferred the crisper sound of the Mythos Line - and they fit behind our couch better for the rears.

[t-maxxracer32]

so what are you guys saying?

dont buy that plate thing? buy a powerd sub?
idk

alot of what you said went right through my head because it made no sence.

[ICUBoy]

Hi t-maxxracer
Most of my audio stuff is very high-end but I built my subs, and they sound very good. They are designed to maximise quality not quantity but in you room they will be LOUD.
http://www.customanalogue.com/sub_index.htm is the place to start. Read first, and check out competing designs but these sound good to me. Have fun and don't believe anyone else's ears!

[_paralyzed_]

you only need the plate amp if you want a seperate amp and seperate sub, the powered sub is all in one and much easier and much cheaper, but if you are a millionaire and want a balls out setup, seperate components are the way to go.