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04.17.2008, 11:16 AM

I can tell you one reason I would be interested in the new Quark over the Monster Max. The SIZE. mounting the Monster Max in a buggy is gonna be a trick. Its like finding a place to mount a pack of cigarettes on your buggy. The Quark looks to be a more reasoanable size IMO. In a truggy or Monster Truck where space is less of an issue the MMM size will likely not matter.

The other thing is that nice looking portable programing box. That looks way better than a commputer interface IMO. I dont know about you, but I dont ever take my computer out with me when I run, but that little box would fit into the gear bag.

The Quark is technically specked as a 1/10 controller just like the 125B was so its probably not a quantum leap better than the 125B, but hopefully it will at least have the heat issue addressed with a normal stly heat sink and the 6s full charge stuttering issues addressed. If they did that I think that it could be a really nice little controller.

At this point nobody has tested the MMM, but the quark is released in other parts of the world already and is getting some excellent reviews.

Now if they just come up with a plan for some reasonable customer support in the USA...
Its really a shame to cuz they were one of the best up untill a couple months ago. Hopefully they come up with a plan.

I don't know about you... but I think this is awesome that we are so many choices showing up in the market.


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04.17.2008, 11:51 AM

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I can tell you one reason I would be interested in the new Quark over the Monster Max. The SIZE. mounting the Monster Max in a buggy is gonna be a trick. Its like finding a place to mount a pack of cigarettes on your buggy. The Quark looks to be a more reasoanable size IMO. In a truggy or Monster Truck where space is less of an issue the MMM size will likely not matter.

The other thing is that nice looking portable programing box. That looks way better than a commputer interface IMO. I dont know about you, but I dont ever take my computer out with me when I run, but that little box would fit into the gear bag.

The Quark is technically specked as a 1/10 controller just like the 125B was so its probably not a quantum leap better than the 125B, but hopefully it will at least have the heat issue addressed with a normal stly heat sink and the 6s full charge stuttering issues addressed. If they did that I think that it could be a really nice little controller.

At this point nobody has tested the MMM, but the quark is released in other parts of the world already and is getting some excellent reviews.

Now if they just come up with a plan for some reasonable customer support in the USA...
Its really a shame to cuz they were one of the best up untill a couple months ago. Hopefully they come up with a plan.

I don't know about you... but I think this is awesome that we are so many choices showing up in the market.
I do like having choices, but after hearing about how many Quarks went up in flames, mysteriously stopped working and/or didn't work on 6S, I really have my doubts as to their quality. Also, taking into account their lack of service in the US lately, Castle will get my money. I'd rather support a company that I know will support the consumer if a problem arises. Even if I have to pay a flat rate fee for a MM repair, it's still better than having a $275 paperweight.
   
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I do like having choices, but after hearing about how many Quarks went up in flames, mysteriously stopped working and/or didn't work on 6S, I really have my doubts as to their quality. Also, taking into account their lack of service in the US lately, Castle will get my money. I'd rather support a company that I know will support the consumer if a problem arises. Even if I have to pay a flat rate fee for a MM repair, it's still better than having a $275 paperweight.


Not trying to argue or convince you, but untill this recent change at Quark I had not heard of a single person that had a problem with quark service. As a matter of fact they were praised by many as being better response than Castle and just about any bad esc was replaced with little to no questions asked. And I certainly didnt hear of any unusually high number of Quarks going bad. As a matter of fact I personally think they were one of the more reliable and best fuctioning controllers out there. Yes they had their quirks, (poor case design for heat, 6s gave some strange issues when the pack was fully peaked) but so far every controller out there does have quirks, and right now you are comparing it to a MMM tht nobody has tested or even seen in real life. I gaurantee there will be some quirks with the MMM also, they just havent been found yet cuz nobody has run it yet. Hopefully Im wrong and its perfect for under $200.

All Im saying is IMO in general Quark makes a quality controller and if the new generation Quarks have the heat issue fixed with the normal stlye heat sink and the fully charged 6s issue addresses, they will be a very solid controller.

Will they sell more of them for use in MT and 1/8 applications than the MMM? Doubtfull. But, if they can come up with a decent support plan for the US market I think that it could be a very nice option.


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Not trying to argue or convince you, but untill this recent change at Quark I had not heard of a single person that had a problem with quark service. As a matter of fact they were praised by many as being better response than Castle and just about any bad esc was replaced with little to no questions asked. And I certainly didnt hear of any unusually high number of Quarks going bad. As a matter of fact I personally think they were one of the more reliable and best fuctioning controllers out there. Yes they had their quirks, (poor case design for heat, 6s gave some strange issues when the pack was fully peaked) but so far every controller out there does have quirks, and right now you are comparing it to a MMM tht nobody has tested or even seen in real life. I gaurantee there will be some quirks with the MMM also, they just havent been found yet cuz nobody has run it yet. Hopefully Im wrong and its perfect for under $200.
I have heard great things about their service until they recently disappeared from the US. And yes, when they work for folks, they are great ESC's. Just considering the price, the necessity to add external heatsinking and now the lack of service in the US it all adds up to a poor choice for myself. Hopefully the new ESC will run fine without needing external heatsinking and their support will return to the US. However, even if all problems that were had with the 125B are resolved in the new ESC, their lack of service in the US makes it very undesirable to myself and likely to a lot of other consumers as well. No one wants to wait lengthy periods of time to get a product repaired, especially when the initial cost is greater than what should be a comparable product (MMM) from a US based company.


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Will they sell more of them for use in MT and 1/8 applications than the MMM? Doubtfull. But, if they can come up with a decent support plan for the US market I think that it could be a very nice option.
Agreed. They could be a nice option if they have US support. I still doubt I'd ever purchase it if for no other reason than cost alone. At ~$90 more than the MMM MAP pricing, it's of no benefit for me to buy an ESC with less current handling capability and the same voltage capabilities just for a handheld programmer. I don't constantly change settings on any of my Mamba, Sidewinder or MM ESC's, so I just don't see that added feature worth the additional cost.

Also, let's keep it real here. With the projected dates on the MMM and new Quark ESC, the MMM will likely be in consumer hands almost a month before the Quark shows up unless dealers start importing them to the US now.

Aside from that, when have we ever gotten forum support from an employee at Quark? We actually get information and help from both Tekin and Castle on this forum. They support us on here and so long as they have a product that meets my needs, they'll get my money versus Quark.
   
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