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06.04.2008, 10:10 PM

I am looking for an opportunity to build ESC for monster-club members.

I can cover electronics, cooling and software, but I need somebody to help me out with micro programming. I got couple kits from atmel and siliconlabs, but have no time to play with them (need to feed the family, only week-ends for you guys) if anyone have a great experience with micro's let me know and we will blow away any ESC manufacture on the market (including MGM) with support and features with the help from RC-Monster members.

I am pretty sure Luciano (Lutach) can help us out with parts and RC-Monster forum members with specs and features. Why waiting for CC if they are deaf and ignorant and MGM is way too far, while Quark is lost in space and Tekin is just on horizon.
   
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Why waiting for CC if they are deaf and ignorant
WTF am I doing here then?

Here's the deal -- take $7000.00 and bootstrap your own company in eight years to $11 million in sales and 50 employees in a niche market. THEN you can call me ignorant.


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I am looking for an opportunity to build ESC for monster-club members.

I can cover electronics, cooling and software, but I need somebody to help me out with micro programming. I got couple kits from atmel and siliconlabs, but have no time to play with them (need to feed the family, only week-ends for you guys) if anyone have a great experience with micro's let me know and we will blow away any ESC manufacture on the market (including MGM) with support and features with the help from RC-Monster members.

I am pretty sure Luciano (Lutach) can help us out with parts and RC-Monster forum members with specs and features. Why waiting for CC if they are deaf and ignorant and MGM is way too far, while Quark is lost in space and Tekin is just on horizon.
Yeah, good luck on that. First of all, the hardware isn't simple -- believe me, it's not just sticking some FETs and drivers on a board and wiring them together. Do you know what dV/dT induced turn-on is? Where it can happen? Do you know what current-induced shoot through is? Anyone can create a 10 or 20 amp MOSFET based controller -- but when you get over 100A and the induction voltages are HUGE -- that's when it becomes difficult. Believe me, I've been doing power design for over 20 years and everyone thinks it's easy UNTIL THEY TRY IT.
The first time you see a MOSFET turn on and destroy a controller, while the gate being held off by a driver, and no voltage on the gate, -- then you might know what I'm talking about.

And software -- there's six man-years of development time (and two patents) in the Mamba software. It's not really something that can be slapped together in a couple of weekends.

Oh, and by the way -- I started working on a larger MMM last weekend. Making it a pet "off the clock" project. My biggest issue right now is justifying the cost of tooling... but we'll see. :)

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Oh, and by the way -- I started working on a larger MMM last weekend. Making it a pet "off the clock" project. My biggest issue right now is justifying the cost of tooling... but we'll see. :)

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A bigger MMM, could this be the Mamba Monster Max or Mamba Mega Monster


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A bigger MMM, could this be the Mamba Monster Max or Mamba Mega Monster
I think the official name will be MMMM.


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I think the official name will be MMMM.
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Mmmm - 06.07.2008, 04:18 PM

Mega Momba Monster Maxx. Cool I want one. That bolt of electricity was pretty scary stuff. I had to watch that one like ten times. I just could not stop looking at that video. Thanks for sharing that with us.
   
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WTF am I doing here then?

Here's the deal -- take $7000.00 and bootstrap your own company in eight years to $11 million in sales and 50 employees in a niche market. THEN you can call me ignorant.
I do not know?
One day... and probably with less effort.
But I do have respect for what you done and still doing, but I am bummed that you treat me as an idiot with solder iron or amateur - whatever you call it.

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Yeah, good luck on that. First of all, the hardware isn't simple -- believe me, it's not just sticking some FETs and drivers on a board and wiring them together. Do you know what dV/dT induced turn-on is? Where it can happen? Do you know what current-induced shoot through is? Anyone can create a 10 or 20 amp MOSFET based controller -- but when you get over 100A and the induction voltages are HUGE -- that's when it becomes difficult. Believe me, I've been doing power design for over 20 years and everyone thinks it's easy UNTIL THEY TRY IT.
The first time you see a MOSFET turn on and destroy a controller, while the gate being held off by a driver, and no voltage on the gate, -- then you might know what I'm talking about.

And software -- there's six man-years of development time (and two patents) in the Mamba software. It's not really something that can be slapped together in a couple of weekends.

Oh, and by the way -- I started working on a larger MMM last weekend. Making it a pet "off the clock" project. My biggest issue right now is justifying the cost of tooling... but we'll see. :)

Patrick
Nice, when you were starting your carrier I was modeling fet's...dv/dt... :)
Yeah I am hearing that allot about software and not from you only, just 2 patents

At the end I was trying to give you a hand, while you slapped it. Sorry my friend now I do not care what you a planning to do, as long as you make them I can tweak and improve them. And who knows maybe one day I will open my own company, but as for now I have no plans to do that.
   
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I do not know?
One day... and probably with less effort.
But I do have respect for what you done and still doing, but I am bummed that you treat me as an idiot with solder iron or amateur - whatever you call it.



Nice, when you were starting your carrier I was modeling fet's...dv/dt... :)
Yeah I am hearing that allot about software and not from you only, just 2 patents

At the end I was trying to give you a hand, while you slapped it. Sorry my friend now I do not care what you a planning to do, as long as you make them I can tweak and improve them. And who knows maybe one day I will open my own company, but as for now I have no plans to do that.
Whatever. You started this by calling ME ignorant, not the other way around.


OK - timeout. You aren't a native English speaker... You do know that calling someone "ignorant" in American English is an EXTREMELY HARSH insult don't you? It is used in English in the same context as "moron" or "mongoloid"


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Whatever. You started this by calling ME ignorant, not the other way around.

So good luck making your own HV controller buddy.
As you noticed I was referring to CC, not YOU in person. And the reason for that is simple, you are the owner of the company and might not have time to read threads or posts from everyone and especially paying attention and getting too deep in details. You might have done that in the past, while now you have bigger responsibilities, therefore your employers must do their homework and provide you and your engineers with better feedback.
If you took it personally, than I am sorry for my English, I was aiming more towards them or flaws in that system.

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As you noticed I was referring to CC, not YOU in person. And the reason for that is simple, you are the owner of the company and might not have time to read threads or posts from everyone and especially paying attention and getting too deep in details. You might have done that in the past, while now you have bigger responsibilities, therefore your employers must do their homework and provide you and your engineers with better feedback.
If you took it personally, than I am sorry for my English, I was aiming more towards them or flaws in that system.

And, thank you.
Ok, I'm sorry -- as I stated above, I think it was an American English misunderstanding.

Calling someone "ignorant" is an EXTREMELY HARSH insult where I come from. Similar to calling someone a "moron" or "mongoloid"

Also -- You state
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You might have done that in the past, while now you have bigger responsibilities, therefore your employers must do their homework and provide you and your engineers with better feedback.
And again -- what am I doing here then? You state that I'm ignorant and deaf, and yet here I am, almost every day, reading all the posts in this forum.

And I read all the posts in the Ezone Castle Creations forum every day too.

So don't make assumptions about how much customer contact I have, and how much I listen to the customers. Because if you think I don't listen, you are wrong.


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...Oh, and by the way -- I started working on a larger MMM last weekend. Making it a pet "off the clock" project. My biggest issue right now is justifying the cost of tooling... but we'll see. :)

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