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07.02.2008, 11:26 PM

Impressive. How does this compare to your MM's you mod? Are these better? If so...in what way? Again impressive work.
   
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07.03.2008, 08:09 AM

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Impressive. How does this compare to your MM's you mod? Are these better? If so...in what way? Again impressive work.
:) Hmm, nice question. They both nice and foot print is great.
From my viewpoint, before mods:
MM cons:
-Incorrect caps for above 4S (fixed with Mod)
-Poor heatsinking, especially first gen. pcb. (Improved with Mod)
-software handicap above 3S (LiPo cutoff can be sacrificed to make it operational)
-poor enclosure design, come loose very quick, i.e. improper for ESC mounting. (Not addressed yet)
MM pros:
-great foot print
-nice programming via USB
-very smooth with latest firmware
-30 fet's total with 24 top level, i.e. with heatsink
Tekin cons:
-no built in Caps, but cap provided, below 4S operation (Modded one allows 6S operation)
- poor heatsinking, heatsink missing (Improved dramatically with heatsink)
Tekin pros:
-very nice foot print
-great enclosure design
-native software support above 3-4S LiPo
-haven't checked Tekin's Hotwire interface, yet
-48 fet's total, none

Common cons and pros are omitted.

In theory Tekin ESC, having 48 fets (but dynamic losses come to play later), doesn't need heatsink for currents below 50A @ 4S LiPo maximum, but with proper heatsinking becoming very capable ESC with smallest foot print.
While MM in stock form can be good for similar performance, while with the mod1 can get close to current capacity of Modified Tekin R1Pro.
Both have Linear BEC's, so both need UBEC (or separate receiver pack) above 3S LiPo, meaning red wire need to be pulled out and isolated.

Price wise MM is the winner, but which one is better? I am not sure, I like them both.
   
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07.03.2008, 09:18 AM

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:) Hmm, nice question. They both nice and foot print is great.
From my viewpoint, before mods:
MM cons:
-Incorrect caps for above 4S (fixed with Mod)
-Poor heatsinking, especially first gen. pcb. (Improved with Mod)
-software handicap above 3S (LiPo cutoff can be sacrificed to make it operational)
-poor enclosure design, come loose very quick, i.e. improper for ESC mounting. (Not addressed yet)
MM pros:
-great foot print
-nice programming via USB
-very smooth with latest firmware
-30 fet's total with 24 top level, i.e. with heatsink
Tekin cons:
-no built in Caps, but cap provided, below 4S operation (Modded one allows 6S operation)
- poor heatsinking, heatsink missing (Improved dramatically with heatsink)
Tekin pros:
-very nice foot print
-great enclosure design
-native software support above 3-4S LiPo
-haven't checked Tekin's Hotwire interface, yet
-48 fet's total, none

Common cons and pros are omitted.

In theory Tekin ESC, having 48 fets (but dynamic losses come to play later), doesn't need heatsink for currents below 50A @ 4S LiPo maximum, but with proper heatsinking becoming very capable ESC with smallest foot print.
While MM in stock form can be good for similar performance, while with the mod1 can get close to current capacity of Modified Tekin R1Pro.
Both have Linear BEC's, so both need UBEC (or separate receiver pack) above 3S LiPo, meaning red wire need to be pulled out and isolated.

Price wise MM is the winner, but which one is better? I am not sure, I like them both.
Great list Artur. Just to add some to your hotwire comment. If the MM software and USM programing is great, then the Tekin is very good. Still an excelent piece of software with great programing capabilities, ut missing a couple key things vs te MM. 1st- the thottle curve progaming on the MM and MM are 2nd to none. The Tekin allows changes to a few preset curves, the MM has infinite adjustment. 2nd- WHile I actually hate the usb jack in the side of the esc and would prefer the Rx cble programaing like the MMM and R1Pro, the software on the MM is just simpler and easier to understand than the Tekin software.


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07.03.2008, 10:05 PM

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Great list Artur. Just to add some to your hotwire comment. If the MM software and USM programing is great, then the Tekin is very good. Still an excelent piece of software with great programing capabilities, ut missing a couple key things vs te MM. 1st- the thottle curve progaming on the MM and MM are 2nd to none. The Tekin allows changes to a few preset curves, the MM has infinite adjustment. 2nd- WHile I actually hate the usb jack in the side of the esc and would prefer the Rx cble programaing like the MMM and R1Pro, the software on the MM is just simpler and easier to understand than the Tekin software.
Thank you for update, Jeff.

Hey, you drove Tekin R1Pro hard...
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