The reason I enjoy RC-Monster forums

[Motoman]

You guys need to check this thread out that's over on RCTech. It's the same kind of arragant ranting that you see with guys bashing on electrics.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/showthread.php?t=231705

So, I was posting to help RC4Fun with a buggy electric conversion and then a bunch of guys came on there and turned it into a rant about how much they hate electrics. Just about everyone that posted there had nothing useful to say and imho their comments were completely uncalled for.

Here's a clip of what's going on over there.

Real men drive nitro's, leave the electrics for women and children.

I just recently joined over there, and now I know why RC-Moster is sooooo much better. Here, it's uncommon to see people bashing on others just because they have different ideas or preferences. Over there, it's almost as if they pride themselves on being rude and speaking without prior knowledge of the subject. (not everyone of course)

Anyways, I've been trying to be the "better man" by ignoring all of the rude ill-intentioned comments but they're starting to push it too far. For example:

Nitro is actually a lot EASIER. Good luck though, hope you've got someone good to guide you!

He was referring to me btw. It's very annoying when people make comments about others that they know nothing about. If he were a little sharper, he could easily look at my signature and see that I have 3 brushless trucks (2 of which are conversions that I did, the 3rd is a XXX-T MF2). Or he could just as easily take a look at my public profile that's posted over there and see that I'm an Electrical Engineering Major (maybe he doesn't know what EE stands for).

Be sure to read the post by TTR:EB4. It doesn't make any sense, and it sounds like he wants something bad to happen. I don't know about you guys, but the better my trucks run the happier I am. I don't get my thrills on knowing that a nitro engine could "blow up" at any moment or from the danger of the hobby.

Needless to say, my stay over there was short and bitter but I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go 'round. (btw, I'm still a member over there but I don't plan on visiting that site very often after that.)

So, I just wanted to let everyone here know how much I appreciate the friendly environment here on RC-Monster, and I hope it stays that way.

we will bash on each other but its all in a joking matter nobody takes it serious enough to be offended.....:-)

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by azjc

we will bash on each other but its all in a joking matter nobody takes it serious enough to be offended.....:-)

This is true, people make fun of me, but they never see me cry...


I feel your pain Motoman. I used to frequent the LHS and would always hear it from the hard core nitro guys. I eventually brought a brushless buggy up there and they were blown away. Needless to say they all bought mm systems and 10th electric buggies. Then I brought a 1/8 buggy conversion up there and they all wanted to buy it...

[trev3813]

i like both, if it was up to me, i'd pick brushless, just overall better, no buy fuel yada, its wait an hr and have a free rc run.

[magman]

This quote from the other forum is priceless
"I need the VROOOM VROOOOOOM and smoke and stuff!"

[brushlessboy16]

i posted :D

[DRIFT_BUGGY]

lol, love those quotes

[redshift]

I agree RCM is very cool, I am pretty new, but I've read so much valuable info the last few months, in no thread have I seen anyone get heated or offensive about anything. I guess this is just another Harley/Honda debate that might only go away if nitro goes to $300 a gallon. I owned only one nitro 1/8 buggy back in the mid 80s (think it was from Hobby Shack) with an OS 21, and it was utter crap. I think I had it like 3 weeks before I sold it and went back to the Tamiyas. I try not to use the word hate too often, but let's jut say I like nitro only a little bit more than I like Harleys.....

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by redshift

I agree RCM is very cool, I am pretty new, but I've read so much valuable info the last few months, in no thread have I seen anyone get heated or offensive about anything. I guess this is just another Harley/Honda debate that might only go away if nitro goes to $300 a gallon. I owned only one nitro 1/8 buggy back in the mid 80s (think it was from Hobby Shack) with an OS 21, and it was utter crap. I think I had it like 3 weeks before I sold it and went back to the Tamiyas. I try not to use the word hate too often, but let's jut say I like nitro only a little bit more than I like Harleys.....

God, I wish they made nitro powered harleys. That would be soooo cool. That way I could jump on my bike, tune it for a few tanks, and then ride to the store to buy some bengay for my numb arms, legs and ass....

[What's_nitro?]

This one is my favorite:

Originally Posted by Some guy

The nitro problem will come back around after the olympics are over hopefully. Be a little patient! Nitro is the way to go. Much more feedback from the engine with noise and temperature, etc. If there is a problem you can usually pick up on it quick and fix things without much trouble. Or if you don't catch it probably everyone at the track will and tell you to shut it down, that thing doesn't sound right!

I've seen electric stuff go out without even a puff of smoke. When those guys have trouble it's usually an expensive meltdown and a lot of troubleshooting headaches. The acceleration is awesome but batteries are still for flashlights in my opinion. I'll stick with what I like no matter what the trend is. Seems less frustrating to ME.

That first part about feedback from the engine making it easier to diagnose problems is rediculous. The only problems you can have with a BL motor are heat and worn out bearings. There is more heat with nitro, and the bearings still fail on them too. There is no way a BL motor will explode, which another guy on that thread said was part of the "thrill of the hobby".

If you need to rely on the audience to tell you that your truck has a problem because YOU didn't pick up on it then I would say that YOU are in need of a new hobby which will suit your ironically imperceptive nature.

Batteries are just for flashlights...where the hell is this guy from? A cave? At least he agrees that we can beat him in a race with our supreme acceleration. It's just EVERYTHING else about electric R/C he doesn't like.

He also stated that electric R/C is a trend, which would imply that he thinks it will fade out as time goes on.

Sorry for the rant, but BLIND IGNORANCE happens to be one of my buttons.

[redshift]

Haha yeah numb. But the realism! Window shattering decibels!

The grown-up equivalent of baseball cards in the spokes.

For real, the N heads must have seen a video on Youtube by now of a BL tromping a steamer, but still they deny.

If you really do love nitro, fine, but to be ignorant enough to say nitros are faster... yeah back to that other debate I mentioned.

Ahem.

I digress.

[TexasSP]

Luckily many voices of reason stepped in. It's amazing how uneducated some people are. As the old saying goes:

"better to remain silent and thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

[MTBikerTim]

I posted before but obviously never pressed the post button. There was a thread where we weren't that nice to a guy who asked about nitro crawlers.

If you love noise and smell get a baja, cheaper fuel too. Also when your up on the drivers stand you can't always hear how your car is running. One of the guys at the track on the weekend said my car sounded lean at the top and I had no idea cause I couldn't hear it on the drivers stand with all the other cars. I richened it up and re tuned the bottom end and it still ran fine so he was probably right. It was very cold and I hadn't richened it so it probably was lean. One of the reasons electric it so much better. There are guys at the track who have been racing for years and they all have RB engines and they still have issues with the engines. They love that though. I prefer to spend more time tweaking the car then spending that time just keeping the engine running.

[redshift]

Hehe my fav quote from that linked thread: "I hate charging 3 batteries for something that doesn't even run on batteries" LMAO

AMEN.

[BrianG]

:sigh: Some people just don't get it. Nitro had its place in the days where you just couldn't get enough power/runtime/speed out of electric. Now with BL, lipos, etc, nitro is on its way out IMO. Oh, there'll always be a nitro or two kicking around for the "realism", but heck, even 1:1 cars are going towards electric. Just wait until batteries can pack the same amount of energy per volume as fuel and things will really boom IMO. Not to mention prices of fuel.

Tell the next gabbing nitro guy that if hates electric so much, he should replace all his servos and radio with nitro-powered parts because those are electric and batteries should be saved for flashlights.