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07.19.2008, 07:35 AM

well from what i have heard and read, you want the motor somewhere between 35,000 and 40,00rpm. so i guess a the 1500kv would be your best bet. Dont hold me to it but im pretty sure that the motors are more efficient at this rpm without pushing them too far.


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07.19.2008, 10:27 AM

I always thought the lower the rpm the higher the efficiency, that means I´d better choose even the 1600rpv, isn´t it? I was just trying to get the same rpm a nitro motor would pull, if I´m going up to 35000rpm I should buy more smaller pinions...
   
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07.19.2008, 10:56 AM

I'm not familiar with the xray, but the medusa is a multipole motor.

You might be surprised how much you can gear this up. It will have more torque than a 2 pole motor.

I've been looking for a 36-60-2000 for an E Revo, but everyone seems to be out of stock at the moment. This tempts me to go with the 36-60-1600.

Which motor are you looking at?
   
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07.19.2008, 12:00 PM

If I can gear it up so much wouldn´t it be better to stay at 1500 rpv and gear it up to what I need? I think 2000rpv would be too much for 6s, maybe in a revo (dunno) but I was thinking that motors and batteries should point to around 30000, not 40000... so I was thinking... 1500*22,2=33300rpm and 1300*22,2=28860rpm

I thought that the last one would be more conservative (for the lower amp draw) and I would have plenty of torque to gear up to 40-50 for the track, but I´m still not sure, and sincerely I think that I´m getting a bit confused right now...

Also, having a higher rpv motor could be a pain to gear since the smaller the pinion the harder to fit it in the car, isn´t it?

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07.19.2008, 12:34 PM

This guy has his E Revo geared 24/54 in an E Revo using a Medusa 36-60-2000 and was hitting 52mph with it.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13551

He was doing top speed runs on Asphalt, and did say he would have to gear lower if he were bashing in grass, etc.

Choosing the right gearing can be tricky. Alot of it depends on what you plan on doing with the truck, bashing, racing or whatever.

Brian's top speed estimater is a valuable tool in decision making.

I think any of the motors you are looking at would work with great results, just with each geared a little different.

The lower the kv a motor has, the more torque it makes. However, overall effeciency depends not only on gearing and overall setup, but from motor to motor, differences in engineering design make all the difference.

From what I gather, the Medusa Motors sound very promising. I believe them to be a great performer in a wide variety of applications.

Where can I get a 36-60-2000? Everyone appears to be out of stock.
   
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This guy has his E Revo geared 24/54 in an E Revo using a Medusa 36-60-2000 and was hitting 52mph with it.

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13551

He was doing top speed runs on Asphalt, and did say he would have to gear lower if he were bashing in grass, etc.

Choosing the right gearing can be tricky. Alot of it depends on what you plan on doing with the truck, bashing, racing or whatever.

Brian's top speed estimater is a valuable tool in decision making.

I think any of the motors you are looking at would work with great results, just with each geared a little different.

The lower the kv a motor has, the more torque it makes. However, overall effeciency depends not only on gearing and overall setup, but from motor to motor, differences in engineering design make all the difference.

From what I gather, the Medusa Motors sound very promising. I believe them to be a great performer in a wide variety of applications.

Where can I get a 36-60-2000? Everyone appears to be out of stock.


are you going to be running your revo on 6s or 4s cause that guy that hit 52 was running it on 4s.

so 6s is going to be amazing haha.

if you do let me know cause i was looking at the same setup but for a nitro revo converted.


oh and so it does not seem like im thread jacking

i would go with the 1500. since unlike the revo you have a center diff and that well giv eyou more power. a revo looses power through its tranny. and since you have so many pinion options i would just go witht he 1500 and gear it for what ever track you drive on.
   
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07.19.2008, 01:22 PM

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Where can I get a 36-60-2000? Everyone appears to be out of stock.
I have a 2000 I was planning to use in my emaxx, never make it and it´s still in his box waiting for some action... I wouldn´t mind selling it to you but I think that shipping overseas may be too expensive and wouldn´t make a good deal, neither for you or for me.

Back to the topic, I´m sticking to the 1500 now, I think that with the gearing options I have it won´t dissapoint me... I hope.

By the way, today I just received the zippy pack I was waiting and it seems I made a mistake... it´s a zippy-h instead of zippy-r and it won´t even fit in my battery tray... I´ll need to be more cautious next time and don´t order when I´m in a hurry like I did that time...
   
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