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08.10.2008, 08:57 PM
I'll still buy one when they become available. If if goes on me, I too will be sticking with MGM from now on.
I thought I read in another thread here that they were going to test all of the MMM before shipping them..?? Wouldn't that include calibration? If so, then I hate to say it but it probably was the Spektrum that killed it. I have no idea how that is possible.
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RC-Monster just don't get it
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08.10.2008, 09:52 PM
here's my system:
losi muggy
tekno neu 1515 1y
MMM V2
6S hyperion 4800
spektrum 3 channel radio
spektrum pro rx
futaba digital steering servo
deans connectors
i didn't plug and unplug a lot. BUT, every time i did, i had the appropriate resistor in series to charge the caps slowly - I soldered one up with deans on both ends for a nice finish! I used to install car stereos, so I know to charge caps! ;) Also, the controller was completely set up with castle link before it was put in the truck. I also read the instructions a few times before I did anything. And as I said earlier, I even upped the arming time on the MMM to 5 seconds to account for the spektrum delay. The radio and rx were already bound of course, and I am not new to spektrum - I've been using this remote for a couple of years. all settings were set to zero on the remote, except throttle endpoint, which was at 115%. the mystery pop happened during calibration - batts were plugged in and switch on.
basically, I feel i've crossed all my t's, and dotted all my i's, and i'm still scratching my head. again. I do feel however, that there is an uncanny similarity to the MMM v1 here, and I wonder if it's me and/or my system, but as I said, I'm completely lost at this point. I would love to open it up, but NOT b4 I call CC tomorrow.
here we go again.
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That's All Folks!
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08.10.2008, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mk351e
here's my system:
losi muggy
tekno neu 1515 1y
MMM V2
6S hyperion 4800
spektrum 3 channel radio
spektrum pro rx
futaba digital steering servo
deans connectors
i didn't plug and unplug a lot. BUT, every time i did, i had the appropriate resistor in series to charge the caps slowly - I soldered one up with deans on both ends for a nice finish! I used to install car stereos, so I know to charge caps! ;) Also, the controller was completely set up with castle link before it was put in the truck. I also read the instructions a few times before I did anything. And as I said earlier, I even upped the arming time on the MMM to 5 seconds to account for the spektrum delay. The radio and rx were already bound of course, and I am not new to spektrum - I've been using this remote for a couple of years. all settings were set to zero on the remote, except throttle endpoint, which was at 115%. the mystery pop happened during calibration - batts were plugged in and switch on.
basically, I feel i've crossed all my t's, and dotted all my i's, and i'm still scratching my head. again. I do feel however, that there is an uncanny similarity to the MMM v1 here, and I wonder if it's me and/or my system, but as I said, I'm completely lost at this point. I would love to open it up, but NOT b4 I call CC tomorrow.
here we go again.
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Have you run this set up with another controller?
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RC-Monster just don't get it
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08.10.2008, 10:14 PM
nope, this is my 1st real BL setup (besides my micro T). just a few months ago, I was asking questions on these forums nonstop! I sold off all my nitro stuff to do this, so that's the other reason I've been so pissed lately - i don't have any nitro, I don't have any electric; I have nothing since march basically!!
however, I don't get it though, I mean CC themselves even told me this would be a killer setup! I consulted with them before I even bought ANY of this stuff!
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RC-Monster just don't get it
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this is weird........... -
08.10.2008, 10:18 PM
i just tried to plug in my MMM to castle link in an act of desperation, and I while nothing happened, the castle link board got very hot. Hmmmmm
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Check out my huge box!
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08.10.2008, 10:33 PM
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i just tried to plug in my MMM to castle link in an act of desperation, and I while nothing happened, the castle link board got very hot. Hmmmmm 
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Your castle link may be powering the esc with too much voltage, possibly killing the internal bec... Did you send the included castle link back with the v1? Or did you keep it and they just sent you a new esc, without the castle link...
I would send the castle link back with the esc, and have them test it. It must have some sort of pass thru, as most usbs output 5v...
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Yip Yip Yip...
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08.10.2008, 11:31 PM
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i just tried to plug in my MMM to castle link in an act of desperation, and I while nothing happened, the castle link board got very hot. Hmmmmm 
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That's what would happen with my V1 escs after they died. It almost sounds as if they have accidentally shipped you a V1.
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08.10.2008, 11:47 PM
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That's what would happen with my V1 escs after they died. It almost sounds as if they have accidentally shipped you a V1.
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I don't think we would have accidentally shipped a V1, we were very careful to pull all V1 circuit boards out of production to prevent something like that...
We need to get the Castle Link and the MMM back -- so we can see 'em here and figure out what went wrong. Most likely a bad component (infant failure)
Thanx!
Patrick
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Castle Creations
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08.11.2008, 12:27 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mk351e
i didn't plug and unplug a lot. BUT, every time i did, i had the appropriate resistor in series to charge the caps slowly - I soldered one up with deans on both ends for a nice finish! I used to install car stereos, so I know to charge caps! ;)
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Dude -- TAKE OUT THE RESISTOR. I just can't stress that enough... TAKE OUT THE RESISTOR. This isn't a car stereo, it's a motor control. When the beep happens (power-up beep) with a resistor in series with the power supply BAD THINGS HAPPEN.
If a resistor was important, (or even desirable) we would either include it, or recommend it.
Give me a call on Monday (ask for me specifically -- I get into work at about 10am on Mondays.) Tell Christy that I asked you on this forum to call for me specifically. I'll make sure we get a MMM out to you. Just take out the resistor -- OK?
And don't all you people call me on Monday.
Patrick del Castillo
President, Principle Engineer
Castle Creations
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RC-Monster Aluminum
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08.11.2008, 12:43 AM
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And don't all you people call me on Monday. 
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Haha you should have said this via thread  expect calls later on
OT:
Patrick in your opinion if I buy directly from CC today do you think your shipping guys can process it this week? I plan to cancel my BO from Tower and get it from you directly
Thanks and sorry for the hijack
Last edited by TruckBasher; 08.11.2008 at 12:46 AM.
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RC-Monster Titanium
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08.11.2008, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TruckBasher
Haha you should have said this via thread  expect calls later on
In your opinion if I buy directly from CC today do you think your shipping guys can process it this week? I plan to cancel my BO from Tower and get it from you directly
Thanks
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Well, probably not. I don't think that all 2000 will be complete by the end of this week (although it will be close.) But if you place the order on Monday, you go TO THE BOTTOM OF THE LIST. Seriously, we ship orders out in the order we receive them. That's how our software works. Same for repairs, they get shipped out in the order that they are entered into the computer.
So, you will probably add some time to your wait by canceling the order with Tower and replacing it with an order from us...
Patrick del Castillo
President, Principle Engineer
Castle Creations
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Never Fast Enough
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08.11.2008, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by mk351e
I am not new to spektrum - I've been using this remote for a couple of years. all settings were set to zero on the remote, except throttle endpoint, which was at 115%. the mystery pop happened during calibration - batts were plugged in and switch on.
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Why do you have the throttle endpoint at 115%?
The only way my Spektrum radios calibrate properly with any of my CC ESCs is if the throttle endpoint is at 100%.
I don't know if that could be related to the failure, but it could explain your calibration issue.
Good luck tomorrow with your call. I hope you're able to figure it out and get up and running quickly.
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