Nitro sucks!!!!!!

[starscream]

Originally Posted by Ryu James

ps. i only posted the boat racing link cuz boat racing seems to be at the forefront of speed technology in the RC indsustry....and they dont run nitro.

I GUARANTEE when you convert your first kit you will never look back. then no one will need to "back it up" or "walk the walk". you will have convinced yourself. that is the only one who can convince you anyway. no matter how much i tell you about my 60mph truggies (3 of them) or my 70 mph Schumacher you wont believe it until you build/drive one yourself. we are already walking the walk. we do what we love!! what more is there???

OH, AND LEST WE FORGET, THIS IS ALL JUST FRIENDLY BANTER. NOT ACTUAL HEATED DEBATE. AT LEAST IT IS FOR ME. I DONT THINK ANYONE HERE ACTUALLY "HATES" NITRO. WE JUST HAVE A MUCH DEEPER APPRECIATION FOR THE FINER THINGS IN LIFE.

No worries Ryu James. I think if anyone should take my opinions personally then they should just sit down with a good beer or drink and relax a bit.

I can see the need for some hard evidence behind certain statements but as far as "back it up" or "walk the walk"... I "put my money where my mouth is" and thats all things electric

Anyway, debates are usually a good thing (heated or otherwise) as they can lead to a better understanding and additional insight to points of view you may not have been privey to before. Just don't get carried away with personal attacks when someone doesn't agree with you. We all know the "Golden Rule" which you won't find in the ROAR rule book

Though I really do dislike Nitro with a vengence but then again I cant stand cigaret smoke either
Its not the smoker I don't like its the damn smoke...

[Finnster]

Originally Posted by Rivermaxx

Why should I "put up" I never said one bad thing about any brushless setups . In fact I believe I praised nic case for his acheivments. Maybe you guys who have had bad experiences with nitro are buying crap nitro engines. A cheap<$200 chinese 427 or a lrp.28 dont have nothing as far as power and reliabilty compared to a good $300- $500 OS, RB or Novarossi engine. It like comparing hyundai's to a ferrari. Lito you are probably right I probably will love the brushless setup I get. I just want to see the guys bashing nitro show their stuff.

The amt spent could be said for anything in any hobby, but the point is why spend $500 on a nitro motor when you can get more for less w/ BL? In fact why would you put a $500 motor (don't forget the $70+ pipe) in a stock Savage?
You can get a castle setup for cheap and it takes all the work out of picking setups out. Get some inexpensive good lipos, like Mike's, Neus or Zippies and you are ready to rock for less than that, and it will run for years.

Check out my simple Crt.5 video. 60mph easy, yet easy to tune down for the track or backyard driving. The setup is a bit diff now, but just as fast. A <$80 sidewinder esc, a $100 medusa motor, and a $35 lipo. I'm getting two years + of great use out of my lipos. I dare you to find a nitro that can do that and for that price.

I'm really not into crazy speed runs, but all my setups are more than fast enough. Plenty of vids if you care to browse. My first BL revo did wheelies to 50 mph and was a cheap chinese $50 feigao XL and a $120 MM. I still have the $110 trueRc lipo, motor and esc (in crt.5 sometimes :) ) nearly 3 years later.

I do have to comment on the nitro motors

You all know im a BL freak, so...

I personally race nitro TC, and my MTX4R paired up with a RB R3, and a Ninja Ti pipe is AMAZING. The RB ALWAYS starts, I mean ALWAYS. You guys make it sound like there is a ton of stuff to carry, if your at the track then you move it once to the pits, I carry a starter box (with lipos in it lmao) glow ignitor, fuel bottle, temp gun, screw driver. Temp gun and screwdriver in my pocket, fuel bottle, starter box, car, and radio. Its not horrible

BUT, NEVER, I mean NEVER will I take nitro over electric, nitro racing is fun, pit stops and messing with your motor and everything adds to the challenge of racing, keeps the blood moving, and fun factor high.

Will be cool to see what electric 8th does for 09, and coming years. Personally I will be wheeling a nitro, and BL buggy this summer. More classes, more practice right?

[Rivermaxx]

Pretty impressive, anyone else? how about jayjay? since he was the first too challenge me. Lets see what what you got.

[Mozzy]

I only converted my cars to BL due to the blood clots in my lungs as I couldn't cope with the fumes.
Now that I've had the op to fix me up to 3/4 healthy, nitro fumes are no longer a problem, but, I will never convert my cars back.
I have to race a nitro truggy for work reasons & I'm not allowed to run at the local club with my BL's. They keep telling me that it's unfair as mine is faster & I have ALL the power settings on the lowest!

Electric is the way of the future.

[JERRY2KONE]

Originally Posted by Mozzy

I only converted my cars to BL due to the blood clots in my lungs as I couldn't cope with the fumes.
Now that I've had the op to fix me up to 3/4 healthy, nitro fumes are no longer a problem, but, I will never convert my cars back.
I have to race a nitro truggy for work reasons & I'm not allowed to run at the local club with my BL's. They keep telling me that it's unfair as mine is faster & I have ALL the power settings on the lowest!

Electric is the way of the future.

Way to go Mozzy. It is nice to see BL guys shoving nitro up someones butt. Also nice challenge attitude RiverMaxx. Lets keep it healthy and push towards proving the BL point to the world, even if you may not totally agree just yet. Lets all just have some fun in here and on the R/C tracks around the world. Truly River welcome to the world of BL power. We just want to have some fun.

[starscream]

Originally Posted by Mozzy

They keep telling me that it's unfair as mine is faster & I have ALL the power settings on the lowest!

Electric is the way of the future.

Very True but for most of us here, Electric is most importantly the way of the present

[lincpimp]

Originally Posted by starscream

Very True but for most of us here, Electric is most importantly the way of the present

Very true...

[jayjay283]

Brushless lipo is just so much more.... satisfying, mathmatically mind challenging. Was at one point kind of hard to figure out, getting easier for all I hope. The challenge to conquer it was part of it, now I just love the fun. Hard to find a smile some days, the brulshless always does it. Nitro stink pumps didnt do it.

[hemiblas]

I have both nitro and brushless trucks and I took my emaxx 7xl MMM and raced an upgraded tmaxx with a .32 on 30%. The nitro truck was impressive, but on pavement I had instant accelleration and torque. I could not get over how much more initial power I had and that was on just about the cheapest BL setup you can get.

[Rivermaxx]

Who make the .32 engine? If its an axial which it probably is. That is the cheapest .32 engine you can get also.

[FG101C]

All I know is I can't stop converting them. I have three, all I really want is to have one but can't decide on which one. When I'm at the track I'm hammered with questions about, and people can't believe how fast and long they run.

[Rivermaxx]

There is more nitro can do to get more power like more agressive porting and higher nitro percentages like 50%. Heres a heavier savage with Novarrosi 528 xrp wheelies at speed and instant acceleration. Kinda like a brushless with noise and smoke lol. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...12325975034856
Top speed run with a os.28 xz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUJluk2DGU4

[Ryu James]

those are pretty cool vids. i hate it when people hold the radar gun in front of the camera the whole time though so you can never see the car. i would rather see the car run than the radar getting a reading. nonetheless, those are some fast nitros. that mt sounded pretty sweet.

[Rivermaxx]

I seen one of a buggy or truggy with a ab modded OS.28xz buggy and it was insanely fast and would impress anyone even the haters. It had such throttle response it would pull 30 mph wheelies just awesome. I cant seem to find it though but I will keep looking.