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01.19.2009, 05:54 AM

Glad you chimed in here Jerry.

For the record, recruiters are not 100% truthful. They will fill you in with sweet talk and exxagerate the positives but don't even tell you about the negatives. That's how I end up with so many frustrated sailors in the ship once they get shipped out after completing their boot camp. Firewire can be a good recruiter just by reading his post. All positive and no negatives. I just can't do that . I had talked to many sailors working for me and just get dumbfounded of the misinformation they receive during the recruitment process.

Anyway, talk to one of the recruiters. Contact a ROTC liaison officer in the school of your choice, talk to them, and go from there. Put down in writing all the things they'll tell you and post it here or send me a pm. I'll be more than willing to help you. In the Navy, Chiefs(E-7 to E9s) are the backbone. We train junior officers and enlisted sailors while giving advise to senior officers.


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01.19.2009, 06:19 AM

yeah 50k for college $5g to sign up enough beer money to keep you tilted 14 sheets to the wind, sunshine and roses, hell week and getting 30 mile grunt humps.. In the end you as a 18 year old retard as the 2 I live with will come out understanding what the hell I meant when I say things like watch your brothers back hes the only one who loves you. I dont man Im old and have a pistol


that makes no sense as usual, I have 2 nephews living with m,e not my kids, but they are now, and 1 is very interested in the Army, 1 is so dumb (but pretty) you could cut logs on his head and they fight constantly and have alot or bb guns, air softs chinese swords and crap, I have so many cuts on me and BB holes from stopping their tiff fights

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Even more so. - 01.19.2009, 06:23 AM

Most young kids have no idea what they want or what to expect from something like the military. Sit down and really think about what it is you hope to accomplish during your lifetime and how you can go about getting yourself there. Wirte down some notes for you to feed off of during your conversations with recruiters or whoever. The military in general can be a very good stepping stone for anyone who wants to get moving into any field. You can do 4 years and get some good training and also work on advanced educational areas at the same time. Plus acquire the opportunity to earn money for follow on education. It is the only place left in the working community where you can get full pay while you are going to school, plus free food and a roof over your head. Like it was stated earlier it is not for everybody, but I can garuntee you that teh military can help anyone become something to be proud of. I was a boot camp drill instructor for 5 1/2 years at the Orlando Naval training center right up until it was closed in the mid 90's. I have seen people of all ages from all over the world trying to make their lives better by entering the military, and it is not always what people expect it to be. The bottom line is that you have to decide wheather or not to make the sacrifices needed and make it work for you. There are no refunds, no returns, and getting out is not as easy as some people think until you complete your obligation. So think carefully about what you want from it and do your best no matter what it is that you end up doing. Go Navy. Oh and not all recruiters are honest. Not everyone will be as up front as you were Lito. Omission is a lie no matter how you explain it.
   
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01.19.2009, 07:26 AM

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Go Navy. Oh and not all recruiters are honest. Not everyone will be as up front as you were Lito. Omission is a lie no matter how you explain it.
That's the main reason I can't be a Navy recruiter. I was told I was too honest and upfront that the Navy might run out of money for the sign-up bonuses, schools, and advance training my recruits will get .


I joined the Navy in the Philippines when the Navy base was still open. It was a hard process compared to what recruiting is in the US. Out of the 1500 who took the initial exam, only 18 of us made it to San Diego for bootcamp. I was already in college at the time so the ASVAB was a joke. It was for high school kids. Nonetheless, I scored a 98 but can't go into Nuclear school, officer programs or advanced technical fields because I was not a US citizen.

I don't regret anything though. I'm happy that I reached my goals while in the Navy. Free education and the ability to have my kids use my G.I. Bill entitlements is a very big plus. Besides, the Navy gave me the opportunity to get another college degree for the cost of my books.


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Go navy - 01.19.2009, 07:49 AM

Yea there have been a lot of laws and rules that prevented people from doing what they wanted to do in teh military. When I joined in 1977 there was a federal law in place that stated juvenile court records had to be destroyed in order to protect their adult future and give them a second chance so to speak. That was the only reason that I was able to get in. Now with kids doing things like murder, and armed robbery they have to keep those records open for gaging future career criminal behavior. Some of the rules protecting military entrance seem foolish, but most are there to protect our nations security.

Yea they wanted me to be a recruiter as well, but I can not tell people lies just to sell them on a life altering decision because of reaching quotas. I believe in Americans supporting our country by serving in some sort of goverment service as a stepping stone. Here in Korea it was manditory when you turned 18 to serve in either one of the military srevices or the police force for two years as a means of proving your allegence to the country. It helps the young people appreciate the law from the perspective that they are there to protect not only their country's interests, but their families well being. This in turn keeps families less likely to engage in criminal activities,because everyones child must serve. That is why Korea has one of the lowest crime rates in the world considering the size of it's population and space available. The compulary laws have been suspended for now due to governmental changes.

I know hearing some of the crapp kids are doing these days that I believe in everyone serving at age 18 or enrolling in college. Either way they will be doing something productive while trying to figure out what to do with their lives.
   
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Most young kids have no idea what they want or what to expect from something like the military. Sit down and really think about what it is you hope to accomplish during your lifetime and how you can go about getting yourself there. Wirte down some notes for you to feed off of during your conversations with recruiters or whoever. The military in general can be a very good stepping stone for anyone who wants to get moving into any field. You can do 4 years and get some good training and also work on advanced educational areas at the same time. Plus acquire the opportunity to earn money for follow on education. It is the only place left in the working community where you can get full pay while you are going to school, plus free food and a roof over your head. Like it was stated earlier it is not for everybody, but I can garuntee you that teh military can help anyone become something to be proud of. I was a boot camp drill instructor for 5 1/2 years at the Orlando Naval training center right up until it was closed in the mid 90's. I have seen people of all ages from all over the world trying to make their lives better by entering the military, and it is not always what people expect it to be. The bottom line is that you have to decide wheather or not to make the sacrifices needed and make it work for you. There are no refunds, no returns, and getting out is not as easy as some people think until you complete your obligation. So think carefully about what you want from it and do your best no matter what it is that you end up doing. Go Navy. Oh and not all recruiters are honest. Not everyone will be as up front as you were Lito. Omission is a lie no matter how you explain it.
Here you GO.. Bottom lined from JERRY for you!..

Best of luck in what ever you decide sir!..

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Jay, you can shoot a nat ass at 300 yards haaa..


That's impressive!.. I'm your freind rite


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